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Disneyphile 05-02-2008 01:50 PM

Man Commits Suicide at DLH
 
Just found this story on MousePad:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1715506.story
:(

And, a parking tram has also crashed (edit: apparently only into a sign)

http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?t=100956

Moonliner 05-02-2008 02:00 PM

No sir, I'm sorry but the pixie dust in the rooms does not actually enable you to fly.


Sir?


Sir?!?

Ghoulish Delight 05-02-2008 02:02 PM

You know the mood of the nation's bad when the happiest place on earth sees suicide. :(

It's sad that anyone has to feel that they've got no other options.

Disneyphile 05-02-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 208062)
You know the mood of the nation's bad when the happiest place on earth sees suicide. :(

It's sad that anyone has to feel that they've got no other options.

No kidding, and nothing more selfish either. I really feel for his family and the people who had to witness it, especially any kids.

Morrigoon 05-02-2008 02:35 PM

Well, so much for any hope that the new towers will have sliding glass doors you can open.

Alex 05-02-2008 03:07 PM

Frankly, I'm amazed it doesn't happen more often.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 05-02-2008 03:35 PM

There are more private ways to commit suicide, but not more polite. Someone is going to have to find the body, be it a shocked stranger or family member, etc. I don't think someone jumping out of a hotel window at Disneyland is all that more shocking than doing the same someplace else, despite the irony. People can feel miserable anywhere, even (or maybe more so) at the "happiest place on earth."

I don't know. Yes, it's a selfish act. Yes, it's sad the person saw no other option, and in some cases medication would have helped. Family and friends of suicides are dealt a terrible blow. And it's awful that some people commit suicide publicly. But, I also believe a person has a right to stay in this life or exit it at their leisure. Living isn't for everyone.

scaeagles 05-02-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812 (Post 208099)
But, I also believe a person has a right to stay in this life or exit it at their leisure. Living isn't for everyone.

I have been so wishy washy on this this topic I have no idea really even how to organize all of the varied thoughts I've had on it over the decades.

There have been three times in my life I've had serious thoughts of suicide. I believe everyone has passing thoughts once in a while, but I did dwell on it for a long period of time. When I considered it, all three times would have been acts of selfishness.

Because of my own personal experiences with those thoughts, in which the situations varied widely, I am typically one who considers all suicide an act of selfishness. While the life does indeed belong to the person living it, the ramifications go far beyond the one life taken.

Then I think of the terminally ill, which included my mom, who died when I was 15 of Lupus, and I have to say that often times suicide in those cases would be considered unselfish. Good lord knows I went for years wishing it would just be over both for her and for the family.

This is one of those issues that I've never really been able to formulate a strong opinion on.

Gemini Cricket 05-02-2008 05:17 PM

Really sad.
I keep thinking about the person(s) who found his body.
If my kid had happened upon the body with me, I think I would take the Life is Beautiful cue and try not to hit the child with the stark reality of what it actually was. It would be so freaking hard, but I would tell the kid (you know, if he was young enough to buy it) that someone was sleeping or had just passed out or something, make a joke maybe... I can't imagine tramatizing the kid by freaking out.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 05-02-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 208116)
I have been so wishy washy on this this topic I have no idea really even how to organize all of the varied thoughts I've had on it over the decades.

There have been three times in my life I've had serious thoughts of suicide. I believe everyone has passing thoughts once in a while, but I did dwell on it for a long period of time. When I considered it, all three times would have been acts of selfishness.

Because of my own personal experiences with those thoughts, in which the situations varied widely, I am typically one who considers all suicide an act of selfishness. While the life does indeed belong to the person living it, the ramifications go far beyond the one life taken.

Then I think of the terminally ill, which included my mom, who died when I was 15 of Lupus, and I have to say that often times suicide in those cases would be considered unselfish. Good lord knows I went for years wishing it would just be over both for her and for the family.

This is one of those issues that I've never really been able to formulate a strong opinion on.

Very well stated, scaeagles. I do think it is a very personal topic. Suicide is, in most cases, a very selfish thing to do, but I'm also not sure a person should have to suffer a life he doesn't want for whatever reason. You had the presence of mind to measure your unhappiness against the consequences, and you chose life. That's a very brave and kind thing to have done, and obviously it's not a choice everyone is capable of making in the thick of depression.

I'm not a suicidal person, in that I've never been miserable enough to consider it as the best possible option. And if someone I loved was considering suicide, I'd certainly want to help him or her to see an alternative if I knew what was going on, because things do have a way of getting better. I also assume for many medication would help, if only they sought the help. At the end of the day, though, I stand by my belief that a person has a right to choose for herself life or death. Selfish, yes. Criminal, no. Sad, regardless.


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