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Cadaverous Pallor 07-10-2008 10:47 AM

FISA
 
Ok, I need to know more about this FISA thing. I'm more than a bit confused. Should we be punishing the gov't, the telecom industry, wha? I know it's already late and the bill already passed, but what does it really mean?

Morrigoon 07-10-2008 10:49 AM

What is it?

BarTopDancer 07-10-2008 10:50 AM

Google is your friend.

Wikipedia FISA

From an ABCBlog

Quote:

In February Obama voted in favor of the an amendment from Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Russ Feingold, D-Wisc., to repeal retroactive immunity for telecoms, saying, "I am proud to stand with Senator Dodd, Senator Feingold and a grassroots movement of Americans who are refusing to let President Bush put protections for special interests ahead of our security and our liberty.
Quote:

Free from the political pressures of the Democratic primaries, Obama now says he will vote for the FISA bill even if it doesn't include retroactive immunity for the telecoms.

And moreover, he will no longer support a filibuster of the bill if it doesn't include telecom immunity.

"My view on FISA has always been that the issue with phone companies per se is not one that overrides security interests of the American people," Obama told reporters on June 25. "It is a close call for me but I think the current legislation with exclusivity provision that says that a president -- whether George Bush, myself or John McCain -- can’t make up rationales for getting around FISA court, can’t suggest that somehow that there is some law that stands above the laws passed by Congress in engaging in warrantless wiretaps."

mousepod 07-10-2008 10:52 AM

I'm a big supporter of the EFF. Their site gives you the "free speech" view on FISA.

Morrigoon 07-10-2008 10:55 AM

And from your link, the link to today's relevant info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA_Am...ts_Act_of_2008

Thanks. I was wondering.

Sonofab!tch.

sleepyjeff 07-10-2008 10:58 AM

Nice to see that both McCain and Obama have been moving to the right lately:)

innerSpaceman 07-10-2008 10:58 AM

CP, I hate to break it to you, but I already HATE your candidate for flipping on this issue. It's an assault on the Constitution and our 14th Amendment Rights to Privacy. It's a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for the telecom behemoths who broke the law and violated the privacy rights of every American.

Now they have retroactive immunity and their illegal acts have been made legal ... oh, except that they violate the Constituion, which most "lawmakers" don't seem to give a fig about.


OBAMA SUCKS.

Ghoulish Delight 07-10-2008 11:01 AM

My thoughts here

innerSpaceman 07-10-2008 11:17 AM

Hahah, and I thinked there to my thoughts here.



Um, thread merge, maybe.




In fact, now that Obama's won the nomination, let's merge this FISA thread with Yes We Can, and then merge Yes We Can with Random Polical Thoughts Part Deux. :D

blueerica 07-10-2008 11:23 AM

From WWdN



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