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Cadaverous Pallor 08-26-2008 08:05 AM

Superman origins
 
Ok, comic book guys, let's hear what you think.

Jerry Siegel's grandfather died during a robbery.

Can you even believe the Lex Luthor part?? Whoa. :eek:

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 08-26-2008 12:25 PM

yeah, the whole origin of how Superman came to be the first super hero is fascinating. I know a lot of creators take into account personal experiences when writing and/or drawing their stories just like regular filmmakers or authors do.

One very good example is The Crow, which was written by a guy who was dealing with the death of his fiancee who died in an auto accident. I've seen the guy, James O'Barr talk about it in person and there's no doubt it was more therapeutic than creative but ended up as so.

Neat article CP - "Best article EVER!" says comic book guy.

innerSpaceman 08-26-2008 12:56 PM

So, now that that's been cleared up ... whatdya all think about Warner Bros. plans to scrap the Bryan Singer sequel to Superman Returns (which, though coming in under expectations, did BETTER than Nolan's Batman Begins) in favor of re-tooling the Superman franchise in a much darker vein, with Superman as a troubled, angst-ridden anti-hero, in light of the stunning success of the Nolan sequel, The Dark Knight?

Alex 08-26-2008 01:15 PM

I think I find Superman to ultimately be a pretty boring character so I'll give the benefit of the doubt if they try to deepen him. But after only one decent movie (the first one) out of five attempts (the last one may have made money but it wasn't a good movie) they have a big uphill battle to get me to care much.

Ghoulish Delight 08-26-2008 01:19 PM

I enjoyed the last one well enough, but liked Batman Begins a whole lot more. But then I've always preferred the Batman franchise and character to Superman, so that's no real surprise. I suppose an attempt to alter the character might lure me in to see what they do, but I can't say it would necessarily make it a must-see for me.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 08-26-2008 01:24 PM

Superman Retuns was pretty much a cluster F**k, IMHO. It has moments but like Alex says, the first one is the best. I read the Kevin Smith script for his Superman, and I thought that was pretty good. There are only really two "great" stories in the Superman mythos and that's the origin and "Whatever Happend to the Man of Tomorrow."

I think this whole "dark" thing is nothing but the Hollywood squeeky machine being oiled with cow dung.

Stan4dSteph 08-26-2008 01:26 PM

I just read this article this morning! How funny that you posted about it. It is quite an intriguing origin story. Are you going to pick up the book?

Stan4dSteph 08-26-2008 01:27 PM

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Ok, comic book guys, let's hear what you think.
I just read this article this morning! How funny that you posted about it. It is quite an intriguing origin story. Are you going to pick up the book?

Strangler Lewis 08-26-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 235220)
So, now that that's been cleared up ... whatdya all think about Warner Bros. plans to scrap the Bryan Singer sequel to Superman Returns (which, though coming in under expectations, did BETTER than Nolan's Batman Begins) in favor of re-tooling the Superman franchise in a much darker vein, with Superman as a troubled, angst-ridden anti-hero, in light of the stunning success of the Nolan sequel, The Dark Knight?

They could have him manage a highrise and live in a small basement apartment.

flippyshark 08-26-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded (Post 235228)
I think this whole "dark" thing is nothing but the Hollywood squeeky machine being oiled with cow dung.

I couldn't agree more. Batman, fine, that's how it should be. But i like my Superman heroic, optimistic and fun, thank you very much.

Before it jumped the shark a few seasons back, SMALLVILLE did a good job of reinventing the mythos, giving Clark Kent plenty of "weight of the world" problems to face, while still keeping the proceedings exciting and clever. That's how I'd want a movie series to go for this character. (Boy, that Brian Singer movie ... What was that!?)


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