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BarTopDancer 03-23-2005 10:10 PM

When you don't get your way change the rules!
 
AKA GOP wants to end Fillabusters in Judicial hearings

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Republicans, insisting that filibusters should not keep the Senate from voting on a judicial nominee, want to change the rules to stop the Democrats.
Is it just me or do I see a reoccuring trend with the current administration?

€uroMeinke 03-23-2005 10:16 PM

Eh politics as usual, grab as much power as you can and try to solidify it - Republican Democrat it doesn't matter, they both use the same strategies.

Nephythys 03-24-2005 06:19 AM

You need to do more research before getting all ticked off- it was the DEMS who changed the rules, the GOP wants to put them BACK as they were for almost 200 years. It never used to require a super majority to pass a judicial nominee through the system- that was a rule change- I believe it was Byrd who pushed it through. A nominee should require only a simple majority (by Constitutional law) and the Dems blocking this process by threatening fillibusters that never occur and whining about rule changing are being dishonest and hypocritical.

scaeagles 03-24-2005 06:49 AM

The process that will be pursued is completely Constitutional. The founders intended the Senate to "advise and consent" on nominees and vote with a simple majority, not a super majority.

Interestingly, Nancy Pelosi admitted that the other day in something I heard on the radio - have no link to a transcript. She basically said that since these judges are life time appointments, they should have to have a super majority vote. Well, if that's what you think, fine - change the Constitution. It isn't how the Constitution is currently written.

Nephythys 03-24-2005 07:11 AM

Thank you Leo!

SacTown Chronic 03-24-2005 08:00 AM

Howzabout the way the GOP changed the rules to cover Tom DeLay's unethical ass? Do ya'll Repubs have a defense for that?

Nephythys 03-24-2005 08:23 AM

Yeah- and when you lose the argument change the subject. :rolleyes: LOL

scaeagles 03-24-2005 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic
Howzabout the way the GOP changed the rules to cover Tom DeLay's unethical ass? Do ya'll Repubs have a defense for that?

No. But I don't believe that is the subject of the OP. Sac - it is beneath you to change the subject of the OP, and in fact I believe you have oft chastized others for doing it.

We can play the game all day of unethical politicians and attempts to cover them. lLike Barney Frank's boyfriend running a brothel from his home. How about John "money in politics is bad" McCain getting 200K from a cable company he went to bat for recently? The unethical politician is omnipresent regardless of party affiliation, and the attempt to cover is typically there as well. Is it right? No. But it is an unfortunate fact of life.

SacTown Chronic 03-24-2005 08:30 AM

I thought we were talking about changing the rules?

scaeagles 03-24-2005 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic
I thought we were talking about changing the rules?

Alright - I can see it that way. Consider my chastizement officially purged. I saw the OP more as to a single issue, being the Senate votes on judges.


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