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3894 09-18-2008 08:14 AM

Oh, So THAT'S Why
 
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin didn't want the city to pay for rape forensic kits because they include emergency birth control.

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Sarah Palin has absolutely no problem with the state paying for evidence gathering. But the problem is that a rape kit is far more than evidence-gathering. A rape kit also tests for STD’s and provides emergency contraception at state expense.

The line that Sarah Palin toed was basically this: no way, no how, no public funding at the municipal, state, or federal level for rape kits that contain emergency contraception. But investigation costs, she says? No problem.
Article here.

If anyone wants to discuss abortion/ways to prevent abortion and the current election, I'm hoping this will be the thread for it.

wendybeth 09-18-2008 08:28 AM

From a CNNreport regarding her religious views:



Palin has done little while in office to advance a social conservative agenda. She told The Associated Press in an interview in 2006 that she would not allow her personal beliefs to dictate public policy. "I've honestly answered the questions on what my personal views are on things like abortion and a lot of controversial issues," Palin told AP. "I won't hesitate to answer those questions about what my personal views are, but I am not one to be out there preaching and forcing my views on anyone else."


Yeah, right.

Betty 09-18-2008 08:45 AM

So - she would prefer that if she or her daughter were raped that she have the baby then. And because SHE prefers that, she means will make that preference apply to everyone else whether they prefer that or not.

Also something about cutting off your nose to spite your face or something.

I'm inclined to say that she has no business what my cootch and uterus are doing. Thank you very much. Doesn't she have better things to do anyway? Or is she now the officially on cootch partrol?

Snowflake 09-18-2008 08:45 AM

Well it seems even some of the GOP is less than enchanted with Palin:

GOP senator: A 'stretch' to say Palin is qualified

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WASHINGTON - Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.

"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."

Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?

"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said.
Complete article here

sleepyjeff 09-18-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 240282)
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin didn't want the city to pay for rape forensic kits because they include emergency birth control.

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Article here.


"Basically"....."Basically"

What did she actually say?

3894 09-18-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff (Post 240304)
"Basically"....."Basically"

I don't understand.

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What did she actually say?
The article quotes Palin's spokesperson. If you can find an actual, direct Palin quote, a tall nonfat pumpkin spice latte with cranberry scone for you. As we all know, Palin hasn't given many interviews yet.

sleepyjeff 09-18-2008 10:17 AM

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The line that Sarah Palin toed was basically this: no way, no how, no public funding at the municipal, state, or federal level for rape kits that contain emergency contraception. But investigation costs, she says? No problem.
This wasn't from her spokesperson....and I doubt if she ever said anything of the sort; more mudslinging if you ask me.

scaeagles 09-18-2008 11:11 AM

I find it amusing that Fox News is slammed by some who cite stories on the dailykos.

Alex 09-18-2008 11:29 AM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is correct (after all, she is on record that rape is not moral justification for abortion) but simply saying it loudly and declaring at the end that "ipso facto it is so" does not make it so.

On this particular issue I still haven't seen (though I haven't looked) whether this was a policy begun during her administration or just continued and defended?

And without getting into the morality of abortion, I do think there is a case that could be made that emergency contraceptive is not an obligation to the state any more than the state will pay for the stitches you get as the result of assault or the new window you need after a burglary. Yes, it sucks a lot but there aren't many situations where the police will cover incurred expenses resulting from being victimized in a crime that aren't directly required for their investigation.

That said, while it might be a consistent policy to not cover it, if the emergency contraceptive were part of standard rape kits, I certainly wouldn't take the dogmatic line on the issue if only for PR/PC reasons.

Morrigoon 09-18-2008 11:41 AM

But the broken window doesn't result in a new child on welfare, whereas the rape might.


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