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Gemini Cricket 06-09-2009 12:48 PM

DADT: Obama Where Art Thou?
 
An interesting commentary from Rachel Maddow on Don't Ask Don't Tell and Obama's lack of movement getting rid of it.
Maddow

When I lived in Monterey, several linguists at the Defense Language Inst. who were fluent in Farsi were dismissed because of this policy. I don't understand DADT at all. These were skilled professionals who could have helped the US in a big way. Now according to recent reports (cited in the video clip), 13,000 people have been dismissed because of DADT.

Some defenders say it will ruin morale. If this can destroy cohesion and morale with a bunch of soldiers, then something is wrong with our military. Our soldiers can handle a great deal. They're strong enough to get over this issue. We're not giving them enough credit.

I am disappointed in Obama. I'm starting to feel the way I felt under Clinton. Despite being "liberal", the LGBT community is still being ushered to the back of the bus. I'm hoping for some sort of announcement from the Obama camp regarding this policy and DOMA this month. But I'm no longer hopeful.

wendybeth 06-09-2009 12:52 PM

I feel very much the same way. I'm starting to get pissed about all this as well- the Prop 8 situation, threatening to cut AIDS funding, DADT.....things just seem to be going backwards. Very discouraging.

Gemini Cricket 06-09-2009 01:35 PM

wb ~ But the thing that really irks me is that I felt that things (GLBT rights etc.) would be better with the Democrats in control. Things aren't. And it's confusing why things aren't better. Where are the brave people? People need to speak out and act out against things that are just flat out wrong. It seems like people, politicians, reporters are too scared now. Why is that?

Kevy Baby 06-09-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 286713)
Why is that?

They found out that the Conservatives have WMD's

Snowflake 06-09-2009 01:48 PM

VKBM

Allow me to chime in as well. I watched Rachel Maddow last night and found myself asking the same thing. A friend of mine who works at Rand tells me that DADT will go away, she is sure of it especially in view of what she hears from the brass she deals with. But that does not help people today or the people fighting their dismissal from the various service branches.

We all know President Obama has a lot on his plate, but he stated quite plainly during the campaign that this was one issue that would be dealt with and quickly. I had hope when Lt. Choi was recently dismissed as he had outted himself on Maddow's show, that this would be addressed then and he would not be dismissed. Sadly not the case. West Point and all that, it's a real shame.

Cadaverous Pallor 06-09-2009 02:57 PM

Can't believe the machinery on this is still hunting people down.

He needs to put a stop to it.

Strangler Lewis 06-09-2009 09:17 PM

I remember when the policy was first discussed, a colonel testifying in support of it said that he would not want his gay son to serve in the military because he would expect him to be murdered in his barracks. Thus, it seems that for purposes of public discussion, we are committed to a military comprised of the most boneheaded members of society. I am not happy ceding pride of ownership of the military to the bonehead class. Plus, if I had a family member in the military, I would not be comfortable with an official policy that my family member was a homicidal bonehead and, therefore, more expendable.

innerSpaceman 06-09-2009 11:00 PM

Hahahaha, I think I'm also going to start calling him "President Fierce Advocate!"

alphabassettgrrl 06-10-2009 08:48 AM

I agree- our soldiers can handle their fellow soldiers being gay. You can't tell me they don't know, anyway. One of my coworkers is a vet, who served (and roomed) with a soldier who was gay. Nobody cared.

Making a big deal out of it does lead to increased danger to gay soldiers. If we just say "get over it" things will be calmer. Get it out in the open.

I do agree, though, that Mr. Obama needs to get on with repealing DADT. We are losing so many valued soldiers, in a military that needs every capable body it can get- we are shooting ourselves in the foot for no good purpose.

Promo-Man 06-10-2009 11:57 AM

This is the same old BS.
There has always been Gays in the military.
Just do it and get over it.
No big deal


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