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					Originally Posted by Prudence
					
				 
				It's nearly, if not completely, impossible to have a reasonable discussion in such an environment.  If I respond with any visible emotion whatsoever, it's proof that I've let emotion, and not reason, guide my judgment. 
			
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 This is another tangent, but I fail to see why this is a problem. More often than not we use reason to rationalize what we feel in our gut in the first place. Perahps your argument would not fall into the usual if x then y ,of the socratic method, but does God and belief really follow such logic any way?