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innerSpaceman · 11-18-2006, 10:33 AM

Perhaps NirvanaMan is simply too young to remember when Bond was not a ridiculous laughing stock.

I, too, get a kick out of the over-the-top ones that became the defacto style ... but those are not my faves. And there's PLENTY of them. Every Roger Moore and every Pierce Brosnon, not to menton a few of the Sean Connerys. So, for fans of that Bond brand, there's plenty to choose from.

But the roots were far less absurd ... and since this one was specifically a back-to-the-beginning entry, the absurd style would not be fitting.

Not that this Bond was lacking in absurd. It was just of a different, more spy-like style. Instead of ejector seats and oil slicks, the car was filled with poison-antidotes and other live-saving devices. And there might have been more gagetry, but

Spoiler:

The girl-on-horseback on the beach was all silly. But I'm glad the action veered away from tank chases to foot races.

Spoiler:

Oh, and there hasn't been a "Q" for a few films now ... and it was nice to see "M" have a meatier role.

But yeah, for the general public who might not be aware of the various brands owned by a single corporate overlord, the vehicle product placement was not as tacky. Again, since the type of vehicle is very important to the Bondness, it's not merely product placement for the audience to be aware of the type of car. I'm glad - - if astounded - - to learn that the high-end automobiles get some sales from these ventures ... but I maintain that a made-up car would not work at all in the James Bond context.

And the movie was wall-to-wall action. I don't know how anyone could find this film tepid. Perhaps there were no rocket-powered submarine chases or foiling of plots to crash the Moon into Washington D.C. ... but the more-realistic action (and only more realistic by outrageous Bond standards, btw) made for a much more thrilling film, in my opinion.

But Octopussy and The World is Not Enough and You Only Live Twice and The Spy Who Loved Me and Goldeneye and Moonraker and Diamonds are Forever and A View to a Kill are all out there on DVD if you want your Bond absurdist.

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11-18-2006, 10:33 AM	#35
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Perhaps NirvanaMan is simply too young to remember when Bond was not a ridiculous laughing stock. I, too, get a kick out of the over-the-top ones that became the defacto style ... but those are not my faves. And there's PLENTY of them. Every Roger Moore and every Pierce Brosnon, not to menton a few of the Sean Connerys. So, for fans of that Bond brand, there's plenty to choose from. But the roots were far less absurd ... and since this one was specifically a back-to-the-beginning entry, the absurd style would not be fitting. Not that this Bond was lacking in absurd. It was just of a different, more spy-like style. Instead of ejector seats and oil slicks, the car was filled with poison-antidotes and other live-saving devices. And there might have been more gagetry, but Spoiler: the car was totaled after 10 minutes The girl-on-horseback on the beach was all silly. But I'm glad the action veered away from tank chases to foot races. Spoiler: The fuel tanker chase was appropriately over-the-top without getting outrageous, as was the final bit in the collapsing Venesian villa. Oh, and there hasn't been a "Q" for a few films now ... and it was nice to see "M" have a meatier role. But yeah, for the general public who might not be aware of the various brands owned by a single corporate overlord, the vehicle product placement was not as tacky. Again, since the type of vehicle is very important to the Bondness, it's not merely product placement for the audience to be aware of the type of car. I'm glad - - if astounded - - to learn that the high-end automobiles get some sales from these ventures ... but I maintain that a made-up car would not work at all in the James Bond context. And the movie was wall-to-wall action. I don't know how anyone could find this film tepid. Perhaps there were no rocket-powered submarine chases or foiling of plots to crash the Moon into Washington D.C. ... but the more-realistic action (and only more realistic by outrageous Bond standards, btw) made for a much more thrilling film, in my opinion. But Octopussy and The World is Not Enough and You Only Live Twice and The Spy Who Loved Me and Goldeneye and Moonraker and Diamonds are Forever and A View to a Kill are all out there on DVD if you want your Bond absurdist. .
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