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Originally Posted by Tramspotter
Just that hedonism has no historical successes as a basis for society that I can think of.
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Couldn't one easily say the same for puritanism? Hedonistic societies like Greece and the later days of Rome lasted a long time before finally falling. Plus, they started out disciplined and fell into hedonism. The Brits kept a stiff upper lip but eventually shrank back into thier territory just like the Romans. They attained the same success level as Rome, yes?
I'd say at least part of America is following the same course. In order to be
the world power, a country must have a pretty badass work ethic. Eventually, the society tires of this pace and allows themselves to have fun. All the signs are pointing to China to be the next world mover and shaker, due to their unflappable work ethic.
The question then becomes, is this a bad thing? Should we dedicate ourselves to work or play? Are we ok with not being the puritans we used to be?
From my point of view, fvck it. Let someone else lead the world, as long as they don't interfere with our deal. Let's grab a bottle of wine and find an orgy to attend.
Save a seat for me at that buffet, Tramspotter, all this primal gratification makes me hungry.