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I don't really see anything controversial in what Tref said. That is the view of the Catholic Church and has. officially, always been the view.
That is the view of most protestant churches: Jesus founded the church, over time the church was corrupted and our particular blend eventually recovered the original truth.
Thus my original reply above: well, duh.
It seems self evident that everybody who is not a Catholic will think these views are wrong. Or else they would be Catholic.
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