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Old 07-12-2007, 10:12 AM   #6
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However, I also want to know the history. The real story. The dirty laundry. The scoop on the apostles and all their foibles. And for that I went to bookstores.
The thing I believe is that we will never know the absolute true history. Any religion (Catholicism, Judaism, Paganism, etc.) is simply a belief system. The Bible is gospel (fact) if one chooses to believe it true. And I am not knocking that detail (I have my own beliefs), just stating what I believe to be true.

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To Kevy Baby. That is just not true. No old white men have stripped the Bible of anything. In fact, people will often point to the contradictions of the Gospels as proof of its unauthenticity, when, in fact, the very nature of the Gospels contradictions with each other is proof they were never touched, fixed, or otherwise altered from their original text.
It IS true for me as well as many others. And our truth is no more or less truthful than anyone else's. There is available reputable scholarly research that supports what I stated. Some may not agree with it and I cannot dispute that belief (just as one may not agree with my beliefs). But to me, it is all about belief, not true, irrefutable fact.

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Despites the jokes, the Church is not run by people who want to profit by what they are doing. They are people who have totally devoted themselves body & soul to praising God.
Unfortunately, the church has been (IMO) severely harmed by scandals involving not only financial scandal, but more recently by sexual scandals. I am sure that most of the people involved with the Church have pure intentions, but unfortunately the church has been oft harmed by the minority.

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Anyway, I hope I haven't offended. I have a rule -- never talk religion. And I broke that rule in a big way this afternoon. And while nothing personally offends me at all, I just thought I'd stick up for the Pope. Things weren't looking to good for him in here.
And I admire your dedication and conviction. One of the things I LOVE about the LoT is that we can disagree on certain issues, but still remain a close group. Never be afraid to speak your mind around here!
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