[Chernabog]

And you are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it discounts factual information and the experiences of hundreds of thousands of recovering addicts. (And Penn & Teller are always right, RIGHT?)

You do realize that because of stigmas like the ones you present above, that many people who need help do not reach out and are unable to have the willingness or the means to better their lives? People relay experiences (very, very often) where they drank like fish starting at 11 years old when they tried their first drink. You rolled the dice kid, you got born to your cracked out mommy, tsk tsk shame on you!

Those people that you knew that destroyed their lives with alcohol, heroin and pot, they just killed themselves in their own little bubble world now did they? Dropped off the face of the earth without putting any strain on the healthcare system or their families did they?

Drunk driving is not an addiction issue? No, not every time. But jeez, if you're an addict who can't control your drinking (again, it is not a WILLPOWER issue) then how are you going to get home? If you get one DUI, then perhaps, oops you had one too many glasses of wine with dinner, and hopefully didn't run over someone's kid in the road. If you get more than one DUI, you REALLY gotta look at your drinking. If that one DUI puts you in AA and the thought of having to forcibly go there again turns you off of drinking heavily, then GOOD.

I'm glad that more people would agree with me. Sort of gives hope towards a general understanding and solution rather than a blind fumble into a pile of bull$hit.