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					Originally Posted by  Morrigoon
					 
				 
				...Can't atheists' "higher power" be logic?  Natural law? 
			
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 Why, yes!  Good point.
I just want to comment on Penn & Teller...  I used to find them entertaining; back when they actually entertained.  For that last few years, all they seem to want to do is debunk everything.  I now find them strident, humorless, and boring.  
I have very little patience with people who take their beliefs to the extreme - be  they religion, politics, or whatever.  Extremism and narrow-mindedness in the name of rational thought is just as bad as extremism and narrow-mindedness in the name of irrationality.  It is just as impossible to change the mind of someone who fervently dis-believes as it is to change the mind of a fervent believer; because neither have an open mind.  Dogma, is dogma, is dogma.