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Old 03-08-2005, 10:37 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Jazzman
My point being in all of this that too many people are turning this situation into a matter regarding the administration and Bush and so on and so on, which is completely inappropriate. George Bush was not there at the checkpoint giving orders, nor was anyone else from the Pentagon. This incident probably took all of three minutes to play out, and in that amount of time decisions came down to on-the-spot acts of judgment on the part of soldiers who are everyday people like any of us here. To turn this incident into a debate about the Bush administration is completely missing the point because in this instance the Bush administration had no impact on what happened there.
There is one man responsible for our presence in Iraq, and it isn't Osama Bin Laden, or even Saddam Hussein. Just as he would certainly accept any and all credit for success in Iraq, Mr. Bush must also bear all criticism if it devolves into a ****storm.

That being said...

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This whole business about calling it an assassination is simply ludicrous.
I'm with you here. I wouldn't go as far as "ludicrous", but that's a minor quibble.

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To imply that these soldiers, who are simply trying to do their job and get home, would commit such an evil act is shameful. Maybe there are people in the Pentagon or the White House who would, but to be putting that accusation on the common men and women on the ground is just sad.
I appreciate your need to defend the warfighter, but I think you ignore some major proven history points here. I'm not going into all the atrocities, but you've seen them.

I don't think it's an assassination, either. It's too sloppy. But if verifiable evidence comes back to me that it was, I would have no problem believing that my government has lied to me again. I fear some here would so long as this president is in the white house, no matter the proof.

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Oh, but I will say that the Lobster joke was intended to be just that. I’m sorry I didn’t plaster “Joke! Not intended to be taken literally!” before it. If you would like me to, I can go back and edit that in there for you.
I gotta stop taking things so literally. See, I thought it was an attempt to make a point without being bogged down with facts, served with a side order of dismissiveness.

My bad.
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