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Originally Posted by Not Afraid
But, at the moment is IS a "vs" thing for the states that have yet to vote and delegates that have not decided as of yet. One will be the Dem nom and one will not.
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I was responding more on the divisiveness issue rather than semantics. See the parts of the original quote that I have highlighted.
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Originally Posted by Not Afraid
There have been several examples in this thread of a a division within the Democratic party over how wonderful Obama is at the expense of Clinton. It's the same divisiveness that has been inherent in politics for a good long time and it doesn't represent ANY type of the change and good that it seems Obama is touting. It's the same old thing with new names.
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The Clinton bashing is just more of the same BS and doesn't represent any type of change that it seems Obama supporters are so excited about.
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I believe that, for the most part, Obama supporters are not doing the bashing. I believe that there are two separate and distinct groups:
- Those who hate Billary (I am one of them)
- Those who passionately support Obama (I am not necessarily one of them)
Yes, there will be some crossover, but for the most part, Obama supporters appear to be staying away from the mudslinging.
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Originally Posted by Not Afraid
I think people need to consider what they are going to do it it DOES come down to McCain and Clinton since that is a distinct possibility.
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This is a moot point until November. The issue at hand (for Dems) is Clinton or Obama.
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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman
Morrigoon, yes I've determined the precedent of a woman president is more important, imo, than the precedent of a black president.
And, for me personally, either a black or woman candidate would have to be significantly "worse" (again, according to my political principles) than the white male opposing candidate in order to lose my vote.
In other words, if Hilllary were a man and McCain were a woman, I would likely vote for McCain.
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So you concede that you WOULD vote for a (in your eyes) lesser candidate JUST because that candidate were a woman and/or black? I'm not saying hugely less qualified, just a "little bit" less qualified.
That makes no sense to me.