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Originally Posted by Morrigoon
iSm: what Cherny's getting at with the "diminish the quality" remark can be summed up by looking at what the prequel storylines did to diminish the character of Darth Vader in Star Wars Episodes 4-6.
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Ok, but how does the craptasticness of Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back (where he's a COMPLETE CARTOON CHARACTER, btw) go back in time to diminsh his badassedness in Star Wars? I think the same can be asked of the lametard prequels. They may depict a previous chronology, but they don't really reach back in time to decrease the quality of earlier-produced films.
Similarly, it's not fair at all to say that Indy 4 is derivative of movies that were derivative of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Um, by the way, there was no cartoon action in Raiders of the sort on display in every one of the subsequent Indy movies. Though his lashing himself to the submarine periscope may have been preposterous (and, btw, was not even shown in the film), it was not a cartoon action stunt that Indy couldn't have survived.
EVERYTHING in Raiders was reminicent of graphic design comics and certainly reminiscent of Saturday-morning serial action ... but it was NOT cartoony on the order of Road Runner in the least.
That changed with the first sequel (a mismatching prequel) ... and while I'll admit Indy 4 brings cartoonism to the fore as never before, it's simply continuing the trajectory unfortunately established by its predecessors.