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					Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket  There really is such a thing as a 4am?Oy.
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 Yes, it is what I sometimes call the end of a great night.
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					Originally Posted by innerSpaceman  Either way, my goal is to get to Kings Canyon around noonish.  I want the best shot at cool campsites.  I believe the Cadaverous Delights are shooting for a noon arrival, too.  That's good.  Not everyone needs to get there early ... but it's nice to have a few pioneers to hunt for good sites. | 
	
 Good probability of us being there at noon as well, except we WILL do the Fresno sleep over as waking at 3:00 for anything besides nookie is just not an option.
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					Originally Posted by Capt Jack  anyone else like sauerkraut?    | 
	
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					Originally Posted by Morrigoon  ...and 4 can do a better spread than two... | 
	
 I didn't know we were discussing legs 
