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Old 07-24-2008, 04:25 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman View Post
But the second viewing can't be required to enjoy the film or it's a failure, in my book.

The Dark Knight's plot seemed a rambling mess to me. And I still loved it. But if the plot only becomes concrete to me this weekend when I see it again, it gets a fail from me in the plot department. In fact, it gets a total F from me if there's a concrete plot that cannot be comprehended on the first viewing.

I happen to think it's just a rambling, chaotic story. That's not a disqualifier for me. In this case, the chaos adds to the theme while distracting from the plot. It all comes out a wash.
I sort of more or less agree with you. I didn't feel it was plot-less. I just felt the plot lacked depth. In the end I found a coherent point that made sense, but too much of the movie seemed to not serve that point but rather existed purely as filler. Or, the parts that were serving the point were doing so redundantly, rehashing the same thing several times rather than imparting anything new. The question remains for me whether that feeling is the result of an actual lack of depth or a failure to communicate the depth it had. If the latter, it'll go up a notch in my book. Yes, I agree, it will still lose points for failing to communicate its depth the first time around, but the fact that, to me, the plot redeemed itself in the end, plus the existence of Beyond, which I felt did an exemplary job of communicating its point throughout with very little wasted effort, is enough for me to give it somewhat of a chance to redeem itself.
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