[Strangler Lewis]

Clinton called me, too, and I hung up on him. When he signed the Defense of Marriage Act, I wrote him a critical letter. His fence sitting response was that he did not support discrimination against gay people. However, he said, the bill came before him and he signed it. Then, crickets. No attempt to reconcile the two responses. His support now is hypocritical garbage given that, even if 8 loses, the federal government does not have to recognize California's same sex marriages.

As for Obama, I submit that when someone is asked if they support gay marriage, the question is do they support gays being allowed to enter into state-recognized marriage. If someone says "No, I don't support gay marriage," that means they do not support gays being allowed to enter into state-recognized marriage. One can, perhaps, answer "I don't care what the state does, but I would object to my church performing such ceremonies," but, to my knowledge, Obama did not offer that refinement. If he's offering it now, it's inconsistent with what he said before.

I also don't see it as a terrible distortion to say that the Bible is against same sex marriage when it's against same sex sex. The No on 8 approach should not be about Bible study pilpul.