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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
Science may have proven that biblical metaphor is just that - metaphor.
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Emphatically declaring that the earth is the center of the universe and created in 6 days, much less being less than 10-15k years old is hardly a metaphor...among other ridiculous assertions.
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But I've seen not "scientific" proof of the existence or non-existence of God - and for this point lets define God as Omniscient and Omnipresent (we'll skip Benevolence for now and the problem of evil).
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Omniscience negates free will, and omnipresence is patently ridiculous...because of He could be in all places at once, He'd be able to stop all the evil
at once. Which goes into the weakness (and your avoidance of) omnibenevolence and the problem of evil.
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On the other hand many people have claimed to have "numinous" experiences, experiences of the presence of God -
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Many schizophrenics...among other mentally disturbed, claim the same thing (need I give the Jim Jones example again?).
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...so if we accept our senses as legit, then they have a good a claim as those of us who have never had a personal experience of God. (I think scientific knowledge is still based on "observable" repeatable experiments).
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Tell that to the many children who died a horrible death suffering in pain because their parents forced their religious beliefs upon them denying them conventional medicine for curable ailements; because according to them, man's medicine is inherently evil (e.g. The Followers of Christ Church, Oregon).
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If we only accept things as true that we have verified ourselves, we'll then I'm sorry there are a lot of things I'll have to no longer believe, like the existence of Lapland.
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Mockering is a fallacy...
S.D.