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Old 12-12-2008, 08:31 AM   #150
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Originally Posted by David E View Post
Pointing out awful practices that members of a group did does not mean their value system is bad unless those things are proclaimed to be an integral part of it.
Read Leviticus and go count the number of reasons God says we should kill people. And I guarnatee you that Torquemada would happily have pointed out to you how integral in the bible what he carried out was.
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It was after the Jews entered into a pact with God to worship only him that the golden calf was brought into the temple.
The golden calf was never brought to the temple it was made in the desert at the foot of Sinai while Moses was receiving the 15 10 Commandments.

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I think it’s overly cynical to say that everything is ultimately selfish.
Again, it's only "cynical" if you buy into the fallacy that "selfish" is inherently a bad thing.

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Maybe not so silly if you learn the background and wisdom behind some of the practices. Having a Sabbath or day of rest once a week from TV and computers could lead to a happier, more mentally healthy life and people be more inclined on that day to bond and empathize with friends, for example.
This just makes me think of that skit Flippyshark posted, The Stool. "Just let Jesus make your decisions for you and don't ask why." Umm, the WHY is the important part. If taking a day of rest leads to better physical and mental health, then take a day of rest because it leads to better physical and mental health, not "because God said so." Otherwise, how do you expect people to come to rational conclusions on new moral challenges that are not explicitly covered in their choice of god handbook?
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