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Old 05-10-2009, 07:46 AM   #29
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It's just a silly device.


I don't read comics, so the only thing I can relate to as far as the stupid tricks mousepod eluded to previously is the James Bond movie series.


They don't explain why he's a different actor and often pretending to be the exact same character from 40 years ago perpetually young (e.g., Pierce Brosnon's Bond refers to his marriage to Diana Rigg that happened to George Lazenby Bond in the Sean Connery era).

They simply don't explain it, and it seems a little silly, but we accept it.

In the reboot, they also breeze past it ... but imply this is James Bond's first adventure, but happening in modern times. Has all of James Bond history not happened? Do they just keep assigning new agents the number 007 and the name James Bond? Do they implant some of these guys with past memory chips and some not?

No, it's just not explained and it's fine.


So Star Trek inserted a little plot point to "explain" why these guys will be the same, but different. Big freaking deal. It doesn't make these characters not the "same." Is Roger Moore the same Bond as Sean Connery. Is Daniel Craig? Who the fvck cares?


How do these "things" make for a bad movie or a good one? They are simply exposition points.

And you are mistaken, at least about me, as far as being a stickler for canon in other movie series. I may be a sticker for things not being dumbed down, made silly, or becoming bad entertainment ... but I've never given a fig about canon.


Did it bother me when Khan recognizes Checkov when he NEVER met him in the episode Khan is from? Not a single, solitary bit. Wrath of Khan is a fantastic movie.


And for those who freak out they killed Vulcan, does anyone recall the uproar and upset when they killed Spock? Pfft, they brought him back to life in the next episode. Relax, it's just a story.



I guess it seems to me JW and mousepod are, from different approaches, basing their dislike of the movie on plot points and expositionary choices. That seems a thin criteria.

I'm really rather sorry such ephemera took you guys out of the film and bugged you. That's too bad. I think you've missed out on a fantastically entertaining movie.

It's not a necessary indication of quality, but this is one of the best-reviewed films I've seen come along in a long time. And I've already seen the movie with at least 20 friends, all of whom liked it immensely, some of these people have been my Star Trek buddies for 30 years. They are all giving the movie great word-of-mouth, as are most people in this thread.

So what I'm suggesting is there's a strong possiblity of finding this movie a great entertainment. I regret it didn't hit you two this way. C'est la vie.
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