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Old 05-14-2009, 12:31 PM   #211
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Why Time Travel - As stated, I found this the best reboot concept of all the many film reboots ever done. Plus, not only is time travel a Star Trek staple, so are Alternate Universes with doppelgangers of the same people (but, ya know, evil and with facial hair). This was brilliant storywise, and Treky up the ying-yang.


The Corvette - Yeah, set-up wasn't needed (though I would have geeked out to a pre-teen Carol Marcus). Any number of similar-results kid-rebel scenes would have worked ... most, I daresay, better than this one. But it was standard and easily accepted by me.


Families on Board - As Alex says, families traveling together is Star Trek canon. Um, and since voyages are so long, coupling and families are gonna happen anyway. I'm not aware of Starfleet ever forbidding it.


25 Year Wait - They should have left this scene in, or some better explanatory dialogue. It's a brilliant solution, that would have needed further tweeking to completely un-stupidify. But having the Romulans "prevented" from doing anything during the 25-year wait is an obvious fix. Though I suppose the more obvious fix is not to have the 25-year wait. Why was it necessary to the story? It could have been 25 days with the same story result.


Coincidence on Hoth - They picked the wrong stupid coincidence. It only got groanific when not one, but TWO Trek characters were on Hoth. Scotty's appearance as a stranded World's Greatest Starfleet Engineer was the more atrocious coindicence.

And yes, Alex, I like the "fate" angle, and that's just what I assumed. Though I put a little more spin to it to "justify" both Nero and new Spock making the boneheaded and nonsensical move of marooning their respective targets on some planet (much less the same one) instead of taking them prisoner and keeping them under their respective control.


Next on Jerry Springer - Yep, Uhura flirts with Spock in the early original series. I liked their new relationship better when, as in the turbolift scene, Uhura seems to be just openly and physically emphathetic to Spock ... but since the reveal of their relationship comes a bit later, I'm even cool with how the movie handled it. Can't wait for Pon Farr.


Green Girll Blues - I agree it played fine without knowing how he cheated. But since we've known he cheated since 1982, it would have been nice to show (not that the contemplated scened did) how he managed to be the only cadet ever to do so.

Yeah, yeah, there's no money and no disease, but don't tell me Trek-era earth students don't cheat!


Spock, Meet Spock - Not only is there no problem with it, I loved, loved, loved that Spock Prime told Spock the whole thing about temporal selves meeting each other resulting in universal armageddon is a stereotypical time travel canard that he Vulcan-lied about to manipulate baby Kirk.


All Blowed Up - the stupid part of the explanation is that the ship is "designed" to go through Black Holes, but the genuine part (and I thought obvious from the movie) is that Kirk had to destroy the ship that has been known to make it through Black Holes without a scratch.

The wiser thing to get around this stupidity would to suggest that ships at warp (such as both the Narada and Spock's ship) could travel through black holes. After all, warp is not simply a "speed." I don't know that it's ever been described in canon, but thinking of warp speed as some kind of generated field that bends space and time would not be too much of a stretch, and from there a field that survives another kind of space-and-time bender like a black hole might be a tad more plausible.


Lens Flares: The Movie - It didn't bother me the second time. I'll pay more attention the third.


Explosion Surfing - This is another standard Trek trope, but I've no problem with that. All sorts of things that wouldn't have any effect in zero-gravity environments somehow work like there's gravity in the Trek universe. The details of a real black-hole and warp core explosion may be even further in reality from TrekWorld norms, but the general concept has been well-established.


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Nice of the writers to put this out there, tho. I think the complaints got more vocal once more people realized these were the hacks responsible for the Transfomers movie.
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