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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman
25 Year Wait - They should have left this scene in, or some better explanatory dialogue. It's a brilliant solution, that would have needed further tweeking to completely un-stupidify. But having the Romulans "prevented" from doing anything during the 25-year wait is an obvious fix. Though I suppose the more obvious fix is not to have the 25-year wait. Why was it necessary to the story? It could have been 25 days with the same story result.
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It needed to be 25 years, so Kirk's birth could be changed and then he would be grown up enough to see Vulcan destroyed. (And so Muppet Baby Spock wouldn't be killed in the Vulcan implosion.)
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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman
Coincidence on Hoth - They picked the wrong stupid coincidence. It only got groanific when not one, but TWO Trek characters were on Hoth. Scotty's appearance as a stranded World's Greatest Starfleet Engineer was the more atrocious coindicence.
And yes, Alex, I like the "fate" angle, and that's just what I assumed. Though I put a little more spin to it to "justify" both Nero and new Spock making the boneheaded and nonsensical move of marooning their respective targets on some planet (much less the same one) instead of taking them prisoner and keeping them under their respective control.
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The "fate" thing seems close to the "magic" that CP was glad didn't make it into the movie earlier in this thread. Is there a differentiation? If not, is it good that it didn't make it into the theatrical cut?