[Strangler Lewis]

If it's not torture, why do it. Waterboarding doesn't seem to be easily lumped under the category of "loss of privileges," e.g., "Tell us everything you know, or you can't watch Zack and Cody."

So, if your soldier friends thought it wasn't torture, I submit that either 1) they didn't experience it long enough or 2) we're bad at devising methods of torture.

The latter argument certainly doesn't excuse us. It calls to mind the testimony of the defense expert at the Rodney King beating trial who said, no, Officer Powell was not committing police brutality because, as you can see, his baton technique is really quite poor.