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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor
Here's the part where I just call you an old man.  I do believe that the older one gets the more things seem to be a continuation of the past. Already, I'm feeling these effects. |
Maybe so, but correct where I'm wrong about your list of stuff not being 90's (despite that you became aware of those things then).
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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor
Nirvana/Pearl Jam
Gen X's slacker culture
Ska's 3rd Wave, leading into Rockabilly, Swing, Punk revivals
Peak of Rave culture
PC Gaming as we know it comes into being
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Pearl Jam? 90's really? Could be wrong, but I thought they were around in the 80's. I'm no expert on Nirvana, but weren't they the epitome of grunge, and wasn't grunge an 80's phenom? Same with Gen X. I thought that was a term coined in the 80's. Need research. Where's Alex?
"Ska's
3rd wave?" Well I think 3rd wave says it all. Same with "
Peak of Rave Culture," and "PC Gaming
as we know it comes into being." All these phrases imply something existed before. I acknowledge your perception of these things coming to the forefront of culture in the 90's, but I knew them all quite well in the 80s' -- so it doesn't wash for me ... ya know, as an Old Man.
Maybe it
is a function of age that cultural transfer points get indistinct, but I don't think so. I pretty distinctively remember the differences between the 60's, the 70's and the 80's. And not simply because I was young(er).
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Originally Posted by Alex
Heck, while we all agree that there was something we label "the sixties" people have been arguing ever since the sixties over what exactly that was and its essential elements.
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Really? Where? I've never seen any such arguments. It seems, and always has seemed from living through it and paying attention to most things referencing it, that the themes and essential elements of the 60's are pretty much agreed upon. Our mileage obviously varies.
And going to Betty's earlier point, even as a child, I was distinctly aware of the Sixties' distinctiveness from other decades, as it happened. It was a revolutionary era, and I'm pretty sure it was perceived that way by tons of people at the time.
But that point is more true for me of subsequent decades. I was aware of the 70's as a separate culture primarily for being so very different from the 60's ... and didn't really grok 70's culture till it was nearly over. Same for the 80's.
But in looking carefully now at the Nineties and the Naughites, I'm really not seeing any age-worn loss of perception. They're just relatively bland to the 8 preceding decades, and relatively the same as each other relative to those same 8.