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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Now, some might say calling our our actions in Iraq illegal is a lie, but I won't out of respect for those with whom I disagree. 
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Yes, you're right. Some might say that. I would advise them to remember that lying to Congress is illegal. Mr. Bush went into this war by reporting to Congress, as required, that Iraq and Al Queda were in league (false) and that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that threatened its neighbors and could threaten the United States (also false). And the mobile weapons labs and the drones and all that other stuff, but we don't have to go through all those lies again unless you just want to. More and more evidence is gathering that Mr. Bush knew it was all false... hell, may have even "fixed the intelligence" to force regime change if British reports turn out to be true.
Of course, it could be something else. Maybe it's this crazy across the pond language thing. Fixing the intelligence may mean something totally different over there.
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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Very simple, and I've stated it over and over - an invasion of Iraq was completed justified and completely legal the first time Iraq violated the cease fire from Gulf War I.
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Hmmm What you say doesn't square with the reports of the British government scrambling to put a legal facade on this whole mess. They knew this crap was illegal.
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On one other note, I'm with you on the torture. The Abu Ghraib stuff - prosecute those responsible.
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I'm very glad to hear you say that. Can I assume you mean no matter how high it goes?
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Originally Posted by scaeagles
But what Durbin described is certainly not torture, and certainly nothing even close to comparable of the Nazis, Soviet gulags, or Pol Pot.
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Call it what you want. We all saw the pictures. America didn't like what it saw. It is immaterial to me at this point what you call it. Your attack on Mr. Durbin was unfair. Having stated that, I'm satisfied on this point.
Hey, did y'all see we're getting a new prison in Cuba. KBR's (Kellogg Brown and Root Services) gonna build it for us. I hear they're owned by Halliburton. I read we're gonna spend $30 million for it. It sounds like it's gonna be nice. For that price, I hope we get stainless steel restraint loops built in the floor. Those old steel ones start to degrade with long term exposure to air, blood, urine and feces.
