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Old 01-20-2010, 11:06 AM   #5454
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Originally Posted by scaeagles View Post
The spin has already started and it is enjoyable to watch. Coakley was indeed a horrible candidate. No doubt. Regardless, Brown made it very clear that electing him meant a vote against the health care legislation. And to win running with that as a major point in your campaign and to win in perhaps the most left leaning state in the union speaks mightily as to what the public in general thinks about the health care legislation.

Of course that is not all of it. The dems find themselves in the same position that the Republicans did with Bush. Conservatives couldn't stand how Bush and the republicans were playing to the center so they lost a lot of their base and still were unable to secure the center they wanted. Obama and the dems are trying to secure the center, which they are losing, and are losing their base as well.
Is not your own post also spin?

Have the dems (in spinning) yet said anything about this election you found untrue or unfair? If so, specifics would mean more than just gloating. (Though I don't begrudge you the right to gloat. It's a fine LoT tradition.) I do agree that Coakley ended up being a weak candidate. On the other hand, I think that the center is all that Obama is actually holding onto. It's the progressive base that is feeling the most buyer's remorse. (And it goes without saying that he never had the conservative base. Maybe you mean he is losing the right-center? That could be. I'm not very in touch with that constituency.)

I don't know if Brown's victory really spells the end of the current health care bill or not. But let's say that the balance of the house and senate shift to the republicans later this year. If they truly have nothing other to offer than the status quo on health care, there is going to be hell to pay. (There is already increasing anger and frustration with MOR folks like me who work four or five part time jobs, have no benefits and cannot afford anything but the most useless of policies.) Can you guys fix it? Can anyone? I don't demand that anything be given to me for free, but you will never convince me that the current system is anything but unfair, broken and criminal.

There will be plenty to discuss, argue and bash our heads on desks about as this year goes on. Enjoy your tasty dish of win for the moment, sca.
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