Of course, you don't have to be at the murder to be guilty of murder. Manson was guilty of murder as a conspirator in the specific killings that he ordered. Convicting him of murder for uttering vehement, violent generalities would have been a much tougher sell.
I would agree, though, that depending on the level of control involved, a religious leader could be viewed as ordering a hit on some little kid. Why the hell not?
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