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Gotcha, I was just confused about the wine bar comment. No worries. I'm still not clear how a non-DLR thing that started at 4 would be any more "doable" than non-AP DLR thing that starts at 2. But I'm not trying to solicit anyone, just wasn't clear on the concept.
(oh, rumor has it that - since the AP segment might start around 6, the non-AP segment might start around 2 instead of 4.)
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