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Originally Posted by Prudence
As if kids, young adults, adults are not capable of discerning appropriate speech based on setting? I manage every day to refrain from screaming "FVCK YOU!" at my boss, no matter how much I might want to. That manner of speech might be acceptible at home or with my friends, but is not appropriate in the workplace. You seem to imply that they would somehow be incapable of making such distinctions and that we should do it for them. I'm not into paternalistic education, thanks very much.
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First of all, I have suggested no such thing. What I have suggested is that in education, encouraging ebonics in any way is a disservice to these students. If we suggest in school that it is appropriate by spending educational time on it, when math and normal language scores are so low and programs such as music are being radically cut due to budgetary concerns, then we are in a way endorsing it as acceptable.
"Well, Interviewer man, teach be speak me dat dis be da cool tang in de biz place. Me not gets da jobbaden?"
Paternalistic education? Telling students about proper speech is paternalistic? I guess we certainly disagree on what is paternalistic. I'd like education to focus on helping kids succeed. Any focus on ebonics does no such thing.