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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Ever hear of Aldrich Ames? CIA guy giving secrets to the Russians. US citizen. Not one warrant issued in the entire investigation, including searches of his home.

I am certainly not defending Ames. In defense of their practices, legal council (this happened under Clinton) said that the President has "inherent authority to conduct warrentless searches" in areas of national security.

What exactly does "inherent authority" mean? It can only mean that the authority comes from the Constitution.

when you enter into such positions, then you enter into agreements with the government that if they suspect enough, they will look into it deeper, that was all Mr. Ames doing, as he authorized said searches as a condition of 1) Employment, and 2) the clearance that he held.

Apples and Oranges argument.

And just for fun, here's a nice link to a story which goes into a radio address by Clinton that authoized warrntless searches in crime ridden housing projects. No foreign intelligence application here -

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...2610-7772r.htm

are we talking the common area's of the housing projects, (too lazy at the moment to read the article) but even so, the key words "crime ridden" are much different than any random citizen who just happened to have met a suspected terrorist once in his life...

By the way, I do not believe that either OSHA or the EPA requires any sort of warrant to inspect private property. Also, if you own a gun shop, you can be inspected by law enforcement at any time with no warrant issued.

more apples and oranges....

When business owners start those businesses they are well aware of the possible inspections. don't want to be inspected, don't start the business.

Prudence, I am not sorry to say that yes, if you are in phone contact with known terrorists, I am fully in support of you being monitored.

But if YOU don't know they are a terrorist, or have terrorist ties, or that a friend of yours doesn't have terrorist ties, by this logic, they can justify tapping every single americans phone without a warrant. And that is just not right. I am glad that you support a Orwelian society, but I sir do not...

And my last comment, exactly how many degree's of seperation would you support, 1, 2, 6, 12? Where does it end? When we all have camera's in our houses monitoring us every minute?