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Originally Posted by scaeagles
I do not enjoy disciplining my children. My goal is to not have to discipline them because they make they will make the right (as a parent, I determine right) choices. If I have to discipline them, have I failed in my goal? No. not in the least. I am hopefully moving toward the goal of not having to dicsipline them by disciplining them.
Our goal during the cold war was not to nuke to USSR. Yet we built a tremendous arsenal to ensure we would not have to use them (mutually assured destruction).
It is most certainly possible to have a goal of the elimination of conflict while engaging in conflict itself.
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Well, that's a whole 'nother thread altogether, and a fight we definitely do not want to have.
But if the analogy is supposed to say that it's a means to an end, I'm on a whole different plane about it. Just as I do not punish children, as I don't believe that it teaches them anything other than might makes right, I would not support killing as a means of stopping said behavior.
But hey, I'm mostly a pacisifist, so I know we won't agree. I understand your viewpoint, however.