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That was one problem I had, it really isn't a conversation until the last 30 minutes or so. Until then it is just Andre talking while Wally Shawn says "really" and "what happened then" and nervously chuckles. Until then it was a monologue of a hippie's wet dream of adventure travel.
Once Wallace Shawn worked up the gumption to participate I had no problem staying awake but that first 1:15 to 1:30 was where I kept zonking out.
I haven't seen Mindwalk in a decade and the first time I saw it was in a social setting and Fritjof Capra was there to talk about it afterwards (even at the ripe age of 17 I recognized him as a pseudo-intellectual twerp, but the discussion was interesting).
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