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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Why not so sure about Spain? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm curious as to why you think Islamic terrorists will stop there, or that the land there is worth the fighting. If Israel ceased to exist, wouldn't it make sense that they would be emboldened to move on to other territories they feel they are entitled to?
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What about Spain? In the last 500 years they haven't really done much to actually reclaim it. Why? Because while I am sure there have always been fundamentalists who think it should be of the highest priority to reclaim Spain and Bulgaria, they don't have the support of mainstream society.
The same is true today. Remove the mainstream societal support and while the fundamentalists will still be there they'll essentially be neutered. They may still do bad things but there is always a certain level of background noise from people doing bad things.
Israel is a constant thorn and there are legitimate complaints about how it came to be there and how it continues to exist. Not, in my opinion, legitimate enough to justify the violence but then that is why I haven't blown anybody up. Obviously others disagree.
But if Israel disappears, I don't really believe that Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or Hamas will find much support for taking the violence to Washington, or even Madrid.
When a crazy person yells at me for sitting on his park bench. I move to another park bench. When a crazy person comes to my door with a gun and tells me to leave. I leave (though I call the police, but I'm not going to kill anybody to stay in my house). If I lived in Israel, personally, my ability to stay there wouldn't be worth the violence.
Obviously most don't agree and as wendybeth says Israel is there and isn't going anywhere and so violence will continue until one side eradicates the other or so much time has passed that even human stupidity can't work up the energy of idiotic indignation.
So, I don't really have a problem with not calling for a cease fire. It wouldn't accomplish anything but prolonging the nearly inevitable. And I'm still willing to give Arizona as a replacement if they'll give up Israel. Except for the Navajo Nation corner, they've been through a lot already.