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Originally Posted by Frogberto
So, if we truly have a cyclical universe, with an endless series of expansions and contractions, then you have no need for a creator, because there is nothing there to "create" -- the cycle would continue under the laws of physics backwards and forwards into infinity.
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You've misread my question. Where did the expanding and contracting energy come from? For that matter, where did the universe that contains this expanding and contracting energy come from? What's outside of it? More universes? Okay, where did those come from?