[Moonliner]

Every time this type of discussion comes up I'm always reminded of a quote from Dr. Carl Sagan discussing the observations of Venus made by Lowell.

Venus shows no surface features at all. It must be covered with clouds. When the earth was covered with clouds there were rain forests and dinosaurs.

Observation: I can't see anything
Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

I think it ties in nicely with the opinion that many present about creation.

Observation: We cannot tell how the universe started.
Conclusion: God.

How about this for a possible alternative? How did the universe get started? What was the spark of creation, that moment where something suddenly existed... What was it? I don't have a clue. Humans don't have a clue. We are basically ignorant hairless apes. Just like our ancestors that created gods to explain everything from lightning to libidos. Sure we now know lightning is not gods fighting (well most of us anyway...) but we are still clueless primates when it comes to cosmology. When will humanity stop creating gods to cover the fact they are ignorant? I guess it will be when we really are gods and god knows how far we are from that....