Just When You Thought It Wasn't Safe To Go Back To Arizona

[Strangler Lewis]

It still isn't.

While I'm generally willing to assume the worst of people, I don't lightly throw the "E" word around. But these folks are getting close to deserving it.

[innerSpaceman]

The "E" word?

Please throw it, because I don't know what word you're referring to.

[Strangler Lewis]

[Strangler Lewis]

Except not the funny kind.

[innerSpaceman]

I love the comments on the site about these classes trying to re-write history to present whites in a less favorable light. I suppose it's too much to hope they see the irony of those classes being devised in the first place to counter the re-writing of history BY whites that has been going on for centuries.

History is always written by the victor. Some people just don't know when victory is over. Newsflash: Arizona is native american and mexican land. Whites are occupiers.

[Alex]

I'm a little bit torn as I'm not sure how "ethnic studies" are presented in a k-12 environment versus university. I experienced a fair amount of activist bull**** (and even non-bull**** activism) in college presented as scholarship under the heading studies that I wouldn't be keen on that getting presented to middle and high school students.

But all I've heard so far today is the shouting and haven't had a chance to read any of the specifics to know exactly how I feel (definitely not keen on curriculum being set at the legislative level).

[scaeagles]

I have not read this law, but have heard interviews with the AZ state Superintendent of Public Instruction (a democrat, btw). The issue is the curriculum, which (according to him) encourages hispanic separatism, and also calls for a return of AZ (and parts of CA and New Mexico and Texas, I bleive) to return to Mexican control.

His argument is if they want to teach that, go to a private school that is not funded by AZ tax dollars. Efforts at the state level to control various aspects of the curriculum itself has been met with fierce resistance, so the alternative was to prohibit such classes all together.

Again, this is only what I've heard in interviews from him. no links, no research, no claims to have looked at the text books myself.

[innerSpaceman]

And how far away is that from the Texas government dumping any knowledge gleaned after the 18th century from their school textbooks? Slippery meet slope, if politicians determine what's taught in schools.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have not read this law, but have heard interviews with the AZ state Superintendent of Public Instruction (a democrat, btw). The issue is the curriculum, which (according to him) encourages hispanic separatism, and also calls for a return of AZ (and parts of CA and New Mexico and Texas, I bleive) to return to Mexican control.

His argument is if they want to teach that, go to a private school that is not funded by AZ tax dollars. Efforts at the state level to control various aspects of the curriculum itself has been met with fierce resistance, so the alternative was to prohibit such classes all together.

Again, this is only what I've heard in interviews from him. no links, no research, no claims to have looked at the text books myself.

By that logic, no public school could ever foster discussions critical of the county, state or federal government from which it receives funds. I think his argument is a hair's breadth away from, "You want to be a proud Mexican. Go back to Mexico."

It's less clear to me where all the people who want to be proud, unassimilated whites should go back to, but there must be somewhere.

[blueerica]

I'll be heading back to Muttland, thankyouverymuch.