Kinsey and Bisexuality

€uroMeinke · 01-15-2005, 07:59 PM

I continue to be fascinated with Kinsey and his reasearh from the 40's. At the time Kinsey considered us all inherently bisexual, with our actual orientation being somewhere on a seven point continuum (0-6) from exclusively heterosexual(0) to exclusively homosexual(6).

Now from what I gather in his initial research he was focused on reported behavior and not necessarily with what "orientation" his subjects identified with.

It seems this notion has fallen by the wayside as contemporary cutlture on both ends of the continuum, prefer that people idenify as either exclusively gay or straight. Granted, seeing things in balck and white is much simpler than dealing with shades of grey, but what do you think of Kinsey's notion that we are intrinsicly bisexual?

Gemini Cricket · 01-15-2005, 08:50 PM

I think it is totally possible. Me myself? Totally gay. :shrug:
I was amazed by the movie as well. It made me think that we, Americans, are really uptight about sex and sexuality and that we should all just accept that people's sexuality isn't just black or white. Lots of grey. So, therefore, we should just get over hangups we have about people's sex lives.
(The movie did skip the part where Kinsey apparently circumsized himself.

I was wondering how they were going to pull that off. No pun intended.)
Sometimes bisexuality confuses me, but I accept people who say they are bisexual. At times, I think 'well you have to lean stronger to one end and therefore you should be x.' But both sides can pull pretty strongly if you're bi. Sometimes I wish I was bi to see what it's like. But, feh, the urge isn't that strong.
There were a number of women in my past that I could have slept with, but I didn't want to break their hearts nor mess with their minds. Nor mine, I didn't want to delude myself into thinking I was straight or bi. That's just not the case. On the Kinsey scale, I think I'm a strong 6.

Claire · 01-15-2005, 09:01 PM

I'm a grey believer and I totally get and understand it. Nuff said.

My best friend since 2nd grade is bi and though she's been with a woman for the past few years....she is getting married to a man this summer. I'm flabbergasted. I didn't think she would get married, period. I'm fairly certain they'll have an open relationship at some point....I just can't see her being with a man forever.....that's just not the Laura I know. I guess it's the monogamous stuff I have a hard time picturing....Laura with one person forever.

I'd put her on the gay side of the spectrum at a 1.5ish....would be further over if she wasn't sooo gaga with her guy.

I'm really happy for her....I want to meet him before they get married. We're working on the logistics. Her daughter adores him and he's six years away from retiring from the Coast Guard (our dads were Coasties) and is totally wanting to travel with her and support her midwifing in Third World countries dreams....so I love him already.

My point? It's grey to me. I'm grey.

€uroMeinke · 01-15-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

(The movie did skip the part where Kinsey apparently circumsized himself.

I was wondering how they were going to pull that off. No pun intended.)

Uh, I think that was included in the version I saw...Bleeding...Sitting on the edge of the bathtub...

Anyway, while I think it's clear that most of us seem to have preference, Kinsey's conclusions came from reported bahaviors - so that even those who would consider themselves straight had some homosexual activity reported in theri sex histories and vice-versa.

Gemini Cricket · 01-15-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Uh, I think that was included in the version I saw...Bleeding...Sitting on the edge of the bathtub...

Not to get gross or derail further, but he said he pierced his foreskin in the movie. In real life, he cut his foreskin off with a pocketknife. All the way around...

Kevy Baby · 01-15-2005, 10:34 PM

That is making my skin crawl

Bornieo: Fully Loaded · 01-15-2005, 11:18 PM

Somewhere in the world, Bornieo shudders...

innerSpaceman · 01-16-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

The movie did skip the part where Kinsey apparently circumsized himself.

I was wondering how they were going to pull that off. No pun intended.

Yeah, that part got left on the cutting room floor.

NirvanaMan · 01-16-2005, 12:43 AM

Ew.

Oh yeah...and I like boobies. I'd prolly be a solid 0 on that scale.

€uroMeinke · 01-16-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

Ew.

Oh yeah...and I like boobies. I'd prolly be a solid 0 on that scale.

I don't know, that "ass hat" stuff doesn't sound to straight to me - and then there are those guys you kissed...

Again, to KInsey it wasn't how you identify, but rather how you act

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01-15-2005, 08:50 PM	#2
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I think it is totally possible. Me myself? Totally gay. :shrug: I was amazed by the movie as well. It made me think that we, Americans, are really uptight about sex and sexuality and that we should all just accept that people's sexuality isn't just black or white. Lots of grey. So, therefore, we should just get over hangups we have about people's sex lives. (The movie did skip the part where Kinsey apparently circumsized himself. I was wondering how they were going to pull that off. No pun intended.) Sometimes bisexuality confuses me, but I accept people who say they are bisexual. At times, I think 'well you have to lean stronger to one end and therefore you should be x.' But both sides can pull pretty strongly if you're bi. Sometimes I wish I was bi to see what it's like. But, feh, the urge isn't that strong. There were a number of women in my past that I could have slept with, but I didn't want to break their hearts nor mess with their minds. Nor mine, I didn't want to delude myself into thinking I was straight or bi. That's just not the case. On the Kinsey scale, I think I'm a strong 6.
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Claire Shagilicious Disneyland!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fulfilling my destiny..... Posts: 740	I'm a grey believer and I totally get and understand it. Nuff said. My best friend since 2nd grade is bi and though she's been with a woman for the past few years....she is getting married to a man this summer. I'm flabbergasted. I didn't think she would get married, period. I'm fairly certain they'll have an open relationship at some point....I just can't see her being with a man forever.....that's just not the Laura I know. I guess it's the monogamous stuff I have a hard time picturing....Laura with one person forever. I'd put her on the gay side of the spectrum at a 1.5ish....would be further over if she wasn't sooo gaga with her guy. I'm really happy for her....I want to meet him before they get married. We're working on the logistics. Her daughter adores him and he's six years away from retiring from the Coast Guard (our dads were Coasties) and is totally wanting to travel with her and support her midwifing in Third World countries dreams....so I love him already. My point? It's grey to me. I'm grey. __________________ Miles: It tastes like the back of a fing L.A. school bus. Now they probably didn't de-stem, hoping for some semblance of concentration, crushed it up with leaves and mice, and then wound up with this rancid tar and turpentine bull**. Fin' Raid. Jack: Tastes pretty good to me.
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NirvanaMan Making Change Happen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 990	Ew. Oh yeah...and I like boobies. I'd prolly be a solid 0 on that scale.
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