Blah blah Red Sox whatever. Will A-Rod be a Dodger?

Ghoulish Delight · 10-30-2007, 10:55 PM

I freaking hope not.

Okay, so first it was, "We've got a contract with Little and believe in him, he's our manager." Then it was, "Dodgers talking to Girardi, Little's going to be axed." But Girardi went to the Yankess so it became, "Dodgers talking to Torre, Little's going to be axed."

No Little has announced his resignation. So at this point all the signs are pointing towards Torre indeed becoming the new Dodger manager, which might not be a bad thing.

Unless it means A-Rod ends up coming with him.

No. No. No. Say "No" to A-Rod. Unless they can get him under a contract that reflects his actual playing worth (which is consistent, above average, but NOT stratospherically good as Scott Boras would have you believe), he's nothing but a money drain and a guarantee that they Dodgers will lose the best of the huge field of young talent they've got. Bad news.

I swear, if the Dodgers get A-Rod and Martin ends up somewhere else, I may have to give up on baseball.

mousepod · 10-31-2007, 07:22 AM

This is going to be fun.

Alex · 10-31-2007, 09:29 AM

A Rod is as stratospherically good as claimed.

But even that stratospheric goodness is not worth what he'll be paid. One player just can't have enough impact on a team. If the ownership is willing to pay the price A Rod will cost without counting it against whatever internal payroll limit they will have then they'd be pretty stupid not to sign him if they can.

If instead they're going to take the approach of "the money for A Rod has to come from the money for the other 24 players" then they'd be stupid to sign him.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-31-2007, 09:35 AM

Dodgers management has proven time and again to be of the latter mind...overpay one or two players praying that they'll carry the team, sacrificing any sort of long term stability by not having enough money to keep a quality level of supporting cast for that one superstar. It doesn't help that they have a penchant for picking superstars that get injured.

Kevy Baby · 10-31-2007, 12:59 PM

They needed to make a move of some sort. I liked Grady, but I honestly do not know if he was good for the team or not. I am excited about Torre coming on board.

But A-Rod? Not at the expense of many of the current crop of talent on the team (Martin, Garcia-Parra, et. al.). I believe that the team, pretty much as-is, is a solid team in need of better leadership.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-31-2007, 01:01 PM

Little definitely needed to go, but I think he deserved a little better treatment than he's gotten in the last week.

Kevy Baby · 10-31-2007, 07:27 PM

In other Dodgers news: they will switching from KFWB back to KABC next season - a move I appreciate.

Ghoulish Delight · 12-06-2007, 10:32 AM

Andruw Jones!

I think this is a great move for the Dodgers. They got a good player for a discount price. There is the risk that last season was not just a temporary slump, but with the short-term 2 year deal, Jones definitely has motivation to improve. AND it gets Juan Pierre, who can neither throw a ball nor track a fly ball after 11 seasons, out of center field. Yay!

Most importantly, this all happened without decimating their pool of young talent.

Kevy Baby · 12-06-2007, 10:54 AM

For once, the Dodgers make the right move in the off-season

SacTown Chronic · 12-06-2007, 11:08 AM

Horrible move. If 18 million per year is a discount for Andruw freaking Jones, and it's not - the Dodgers' offer far exceeded anything Jones received from other teams -, I'd hate to see list price.

Jesus, 18 million per for a .222 hitter (.263 lifetime) whose power decline coincides with the implementation of MLB's drug testing policy. Unacceptable. But then, this is what you get for hiring someone who learned at the knee of baseball's most overrated general manager, Brian Sabean. Bring in overpriced, over-the-hill talent and watch your team suck in August and September. Now there's a blueprint for success.

10-30-2007, 10:55 PM	#1
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Blah blah Red Sox whatever. Will A-Rod be a Dodger? I freaking hope not. Okay, so first it was, "We've got a contract with Little and believe in him, he's our manager." Then it was, "Dodgers talking to Girardi, Little's going to be axed." But Girardi went to the Yankess so it became, "Dodgers talking to Torre, Little's going to be axed." No Little has announced his resignation. So at this point all the signs are pointing towards Torre indeed becoming the new Dodger manager, which might not be a bad thing. Unless it means A-Rod ends up coming with him. No. No. No. Say "No" to A-Rod. Unless they can get him under a contract that reflects his actual playing worth (which is consistent, above average, but NOT stratospherically good as Scott Boras would have you believe), he's nothing but a money drain and a guarantee that they Dodgers will lose the best of the huge field of young talent they've got. Bad news. I swear, if the Dodgers get A-Rod and Martin ends up somewhere else, I may have to give up on baseball. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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10-31-2007, 09:29 AM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	A Rod is as stratospherically good as claimed. But even that stratospheric goodness is not worth what he'll be paid. One player just can't have enough impact on a team. If the ownership is willing to pay the price A Rod will cost without counting it against whatever internal payroll limit they will have then they'd be pretty stupid not to sign him if they can. If instead they're going to take the approach of "the money for A Rod has to come from the money for the other 24 players" then they'd be stupid to sign him.
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10-31-2007, 09:35 AM	#4
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Dodgers management has proven time and again to be of the latter mind...overpay one or two players praying that they'll carry the team, sacrificing any sort of long term stability by not having enough money to keep a quality level of supporting cast for that one superstar. It doesn't help that they have a penchant for picking superstars that get injured. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	They needed to make a move of some sort. I liked Grady, but I honestly do not know if he was good for the team or not. I am excited about Torre coming on board. But A-Rod? Not at the expense of many of the current crop of talent on the team (Martin, Garcia-Parra, et. al.). I believe that the team, pretty much as-is, is a solid team in need of better leadership. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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10-31-2007, 01:01 PM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Little definitely needed to go, but I think he deserved a little better treatment than he's gotten in the last week. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	In other Dodgers news: they will switching from KFWB back to KABC next season - a move I appreciate. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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12-06-2007, 10:32 AM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Andruw Jones! I think this is a great move for the Dodgers. They got a good player for a discount price. There is the risk that last season was not just a temporary slump, but with the short-term 2 year deal, Jones definitely has motivation to improve. AND it gets Juan Pierre, who can neither throw a ball nor track a fly ball after 11 seasons, out of center field. Yay! Most importantly, this all happened without decimating their pool of young talent. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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12-06-2007, 10:54 AM	#9
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12-06-2007, 11:08 AM	#10
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	Horrible move. If 18 million per year is a discount for Andruw freaking Jones, and it's not - the Dodgers' offer far exceeded anything Jones received from other teams -, I'd hate to see list price. Jesus, 18 million per for a .222 hitter (.263 lifetime) whose power decline coincides with the implementation of MLB's drug testing policy. Unacceptable. But then, this is what you get for hiring someone who learned at the knee of baseball's most overrated general manager, Brian Sabean. Bring in overpriced, over-the-hill talent and watch your team suck in August and September. Now there's a blueprint for success. __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
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