NSA eavesdropping program ruled unconstitutional

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

If this has already been addressed, I apologize.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/...uit/index.html

[Betty]

'bout time.

[Nephythys]

doen't mean anything- it'll get pushed up and we will see what SCOTUS does. Somehow I think (and hope) they will have more respect for the FISA court than this judge did.

[Alex]

This judge has complete respect for the FISA court since the ruling says that Bush has to use it.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

This judge has complete respect for the FISA court since the ruling says that Bush has to use it.

Meh, I disagree- no surprise there. We'll see what happens.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Meh, I disagree- no surprise there. We'll see what happens.

Care to elaborate? The NSA program completely circumvents FISA. This ruling mandates that any such wire tapping would have to be cleared by FISA (either prior to action, or retroactively. I think FISA rules give something like 3 days). So how does the ruling disrespect FISA?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Care to elaborate? The NSA program completely circumvents FISA. This ruling mandates that any such wire tapping would have to be cleared by FISA (either prior to action, or retroactively. I think FISA rules give something like 3 days). So how does the ruling disrespect FISA?

You forget...

Everything Bush does is wonderful, and necessary to preserve freedom and democracy (oops! I mean republicanism… America is not a democracy).

Anyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support all of Bush’s actions 100% is a whacko, terrorist loving, liberal.

[Alex]

It isn't an issue of opinion but of fact. Read the dang opinion.

The irreparable injury conversely sustained by Defendent [the United States government] under this injunction may be rectified by compliance with our Constitution and/or statutory law as amended, if necessary.

Bolding mine.

The statutory law with which the judge finds the government out of compliance is FISA (see page 28, 31 of the PDF). The finding is that the government has intentionally tried to circumvent FISA. That if anybody isn't showing respect for FISA it is the president of the United States.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by JWBear

You forget...

Everything Bush does is wonderful, and necessary to preserve freedom and democracy (oops! I mean republicanism… America is not a democracy).

Anyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support all of Bush’s actions 100% is a whacko, terrorist loving, liberal.

If you say so- I sure did not.

People often make this stupid mistake of thinking that people just ADORE Bush and that's what the issue is- I do not adore him, he has let me down often- and Bush is not the point.

So- I don't know into whose mouth you are shoving those words, but it sure as hell is not mine!

[Gemini Cricket]

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