Bad day for war proponents

wendybeth · 10-21-2006, 05:52 PM

Pat Tillman's brother speaks out against the war in Iraq .

"Somehow, the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country. Somehow, this is tolerated. Somehow, nobody is accountable for this."

And, a senior US diplomat said this today: (link )
"In an interview with Al-Jazeera television aired late Saturday, Alberto Fernandez, director of public diplomacy in the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department offered an unusually candid assessment of America’s war in Iraq. “We tried to do our best but I think there is much room for criticism because, undoubtedly, there was arrogance and there was stupidity from the United States in Iraq,” he said."

sleepyjeff · 10-21-2006, 09:08 PM

Someone from the State Department thinks the war was a bad idea?

I am totally shocked

Nephythys · 10-25-2006, 04:45 PM

heh- no kidding.

Tramspotter · 10-31-2006, 02:51 PM

Shiver syndrome eh?

He works in government and lost a brother so he gets immidate sympathy and his vast inside knowlage about the situation gives him buckets of credibility I suppose he also has immunity from critizism and those who disagree are further supposed to feel bad calling him out as for instance I would as one angry fvcking tool.

What a find!

His whole argument is couched in a frothing apeal to emotion.

Try again

wendybeth · 10-31-2006, 02:55 PM

Hmmm....listen to someone who's actually been there, and has lost someone he loves in such a horrible and scandalous way, or....you?

Get used to it- there are a lot of people who are starting to turn against this war, and for very good reasons.

Not Afraid · 10-31-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Get used to it- there are a lot of people who are starting to turn against this war, and for very good reasons.

It's about time!

Gn2Dlnd · 10-31-2006, 03:07 PM

Sounds like Limbaugh's criticism of Michael J. Fox, or Coulter on the 9/11 widows.

Must be the new tactic the kewl kidz are using.

Here, let me try.
Babies are so freaking manipulative! They make me angry! Arrgh! They lay around all day, exaggerating their adorability, and get people to feed them, lug them around, and wipe their little baby asses. Stupid babies!

Did I get it right?

wendybeth · 10-31-2006, 03:20 PM

You were so convincing!

Tramspotter · 11-01-2006, 10:44 PM

Nope sounds like 99.9 percent of the nonstop railing against The evil Bush-Hitler that pases for discorse around here to me

Gn2Dland I am confused by your position do you now advocate taking stem cells from live retarted babies?

And as to the general point I much like southpart can and will suspend my personal sympathy for someone who like M.J. Fox and his terrible disease decided to make it fair game by whoring it out in the political arena.

In that spirit

I will vote for whoever Michael J want's if he comes over to my place and makes me a martini, no forget that I would at that point be whoring myself out too. Make it a french martini!

wendybeth · 11-01-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Nope sounds like 99.9 percent of the nonstop railing against The evil Bush-Hitler that pases for discorse around here to me

Gn2Dland I am confused by your position do you now advocate taking stem cells from live retarted babies?

And as to the general point I much like southpart can and will suspend my personal sympathy for someone who like M.J. Fox and his terrible disease decided to make it fair game by whoring it out in the political arena.

In that spirit

I will vote for whoever Michael J want's if he comes over to my place and makes me a martini, no forget that I would at that point be whoring myself out too. Make it a french martini!

I'm sure Michael is sooo glad he's got Parkinsons, just so he can whore himself out for ...uhm whatever you seem to think he gets out of having this disease.

I can't figure out what the rest of your post is supposed to mean, so I'll leave it to someone who speaks Tramspotter to interpret it for me.

10-21-2006, 05:52 PM	#1
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Bad day for war proponents Pat Tillman's brother speaks out against the war in Iraq . "Somehow, the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge of this country. Somehow, this is tolerated. Somehow, nobody is accountable for this." And, a senior US diplomat said this today: (link ) "In an interview with Al-Jazeera television aired late Saturday, Alberto Fernandez, director of public diplomacy in the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department offered an unusually candid assessment of America’s war in Iraq. “We tried to do our best but I think there is much room for criticism because, undoubtedly, there was arrogance and there was stupidity from the United States in Iraq,” he said." __________________
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10-21-2006, 09:08 PM	#2
sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	Someone from the State Department thinks the war was a bad idea? I am totally shocked __________________ River Guardian-less
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10-25-2006, 04:45 PM	#3
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	heh- no kidding.
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10-31-2006, 02:51 PM	#4
Tramspotter Show me on the bear. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 445	Shiver syndrome eh? He works in government and lost a brother so he gets immidate sympathy and his vast inside knowlage about the situation gives him buckets of credibility I suppose he also has immunity from critizism and those who disagree are further supposed to feel bad calling him out as for instance I would as one angry fvcking tool. What a find! His whole argument is couched in a frothing apeal to emotion. Try again
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10-31-2006, 02:55 PM	#5
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Hmmm....listen to someone who's actually been there, and has lost someone he loves in such a horrible and scandalous way, or....you? Get used to it- there are a lot of people who are starting to turn against this war, and for very good reasons. __________________
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10-31-2006, 03:07 PM	#7
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Sounds like Limbaugh's criticism of Michael J. Fox, or Coulter on the 9/11 widows. Must be the new tactic the kewl kidz are using. Here, let me try. Babies are so freaking manipulative! They make me angry! Arrgh! They lay around all day, exaggerating their adorability, and get people to feed them, lug them around, and wipe their little baby asses. Stupid babies! Did I get it right? __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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10-31-2006, 03:20 PM	#8
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	You were so convincing! __________________
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11-01-2006, 10:44 PM	#9
Tramspotter Show me on the bear. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 445	Nope sounds like 99.9 percent of the nonstop railing against The evil Bush-Hitler that pases for discorse around here to me Gn2Dland I am confused by your position do you now advocate taking stem cells from live retarted babies? And as to the general point I much like southpart can and will suspend my personal sympathy for someone who like M.J. Fox and his terrible disease decided to make it fair game by whoring it out in the political arena. In that spirit I will vote for whoever Michael J want's if he comes over to my place and makes me a martini, no forget that I would at that point be whoring myself out too. Make it a french martini!
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