Bonds era ending in San Francisco

Moonliner · 09-22-2007, 06:45 AM

I'm not the biggest baseball fan around here but this really pisses me off.

The Giants have let Barry Bonds go.

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Originally Posted by Two Faced Slimy Owner

Giants owner Peter Magowan said Friday. "It's an emotional time for me. We've been through a lot together these 15 years. A lot of good things have happened. Unfortunately a lot of bad things have happened. But there comes a time when you have to go in a different direction."

Ohhh! It's OK to back Bonds when he's making a run for the record and filling your seats but now that he's broken the record for you and attendance will dip, you get all santamonious and cut him loose. What a bunch of two faced A-holes.

Strangler Lewis · 09-22-2007, 06:58 AM

I believe that the complaint was that the team felt compelled to surround Bonds with older, high-priced good players in an effort to get him a World Series ring. Clearly, if all you're focusing on is trying to win the World Series, you lose sight of other important priorities.

scaeagles · 09-22-2007, 07:44 AM

It's business. Using Bonds? Perhaps. If you can get people in the seats, you can get people in the seats. Personally, I think MLB in general is a bunch od sanctimonious A-holes in the whole situation with Bonds. How is it possible that he is still allowed to even be participating in the game with his steroid usage? What more proof do you need? His name and record chasing is the only reason he was allowed to stay because it was deemed "good for the game".

Alex · 09-22-2007, 07:56 AM

But conversely, the only reason Bonds was playing regularly the last three seasons for the Giants was because of his home run chase. Bonds milked the team for a few metric ****loads of cash for doing them the privielege so he can't hardly be upset that now that the chase is over they're ready to move on.

Keeping Bonds as the centerpoint of that team pretty much consigned them to mediocrity and not being able to seriously try to move on. 25 home runs and 60 RBI over 120 games can certainly be had for many millions cheaper than Bonds would cost and be more than a year-by-year rental.

He still a phenomenal player for 43, but all of his stats are at least 40% off of his career averages, the're only going to continue degrading, and he's increasingly likely to suffer a career ending injury or just one day decide he's just too tired to do it any more.

Being a great 43 year old is about the same as being a pretty good 26 year old in terms of production with a lot less upside down the road.

So rather than being upset that he is being shown the door he should be happy he had something that kept him from getting the standard rent-a-player treatment of other other over-40 hitters of having to switch teams every season to find that out-of-contention team looking for some "experience" in the dugout to impart wisdom to the young whippersnappers.

wendybeth · 09-22-2007, 08:21 AM

It was a symbiotic business relationship (in the most cynical sense) that has run it's course. Bonds is an asshole to the fans, I'm fairly certain his teammates can't stand him and I think he has harmed the game by aiding his selfish pursuit of the HR record with steroid usage. He is a loser and he won't be missed.

Kevy Baby · 09-22-2007, 10:15 AM

I just look forward to when the line reads:

"Bonds era ending"

Ghoulish Delight · 09-22-2007, 10:42 AM

I'm pissed because now with Bonds gone, the Giants can focus on putting a team out there that can actually win games.

scaeagles · 09-22-2007, 11:10 AM

What's the Dodgers' excuse? (runs, ducks, and hides)

Ghoulish Delight · 09-22-2007, 11:16 AM

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What's the Dodgers' excuse? (runs, ducks, and hides)

Excuse for what? Being in the division lead, or in contention for the division lead for the past 5 seasons?

scaeagles · 09-22-2007, 11:32 AM

I am not a baseball fan, GD - you know that. All I know is that you are a huge Dodger fan, and I saw on the news last night that the Dodgers have lost 6 in a row, basically taking themselves out of contention in the NL West.

So I thought I'd poke a bit.

09-22-2007, 06:58 AM	#2
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I believe that the complaint was that the team felt compelled to surround Bonds with older, high-priced good players in an effort to get him a World Series ring. Clearly, if all you're focusing on is trying to win the World Series, you lose sight of other important priorities. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	It's business. Using Bonds? Perhaps. If you can get people in the seats, you can get people in the seats. Personally, I think MLB in general is a bunch od sanctimonious A-holes in the whole situation with Bonds. How is it possible that he is still allowed to even be participating in the game with his steroid usage? What more proof do you need? His name and record chasing is the only reason he was allowed to stay because it was deemed "good for the game".
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09-22-2007, 07:56 AM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	But conversely, the only reason Bonds was playing regularly the last three seasons for the Giants was because of his home run chase. Bonds milked the team for a few metric ***loads of cash for doing them the privielege so he can't hardly be upset that now that the chase is over they're ready to move on. Keeping Bonds as the centerpoint of that team pretty much consigned them to mediocrity and not being able to seriously try to move on. 25 home runs and 60 RBI over 120 games can certainly be had for many millions cheaper than Bonds would cost and be more than a year-by-year rental. He still a phenomenal player for 43, but all of his stats are at least 40% off of his career averages, the're only going to continue degrading, and he's increasingly likely to suffer a career ending injury or just one day decide he's just too tired to do it any more. Being a great 43 year old is about the same as being a pretty good 26 year old in terms of production with a lot less upside down the road. So rather than being upset that he is being shown the door he should be happy he had something that kept him from getting the standard rent-a-player treatment of other other over-40 hitters of having to switch teams every season to find that out-of-contention team looking for some "experience" in the dugout to impart wisdom to the young whippersnappers. Last edited by Alex : 09-22-2007 at 08:53 AM.*
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09-22-2007, 08:21 AM	#5
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	It was a symbiotic business relationship (in the most cynical sense) that has run it's course. Bonds is an asshole to the fans, I'm fairly certain his teammates can't stand him and I think he has harmed the game by aiding his selfish pursuit of the HR record with steroid usage. He is a loser and he won't be missed. __________________
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Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I just look forward to when the line reads: "Bonds era ending" __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I'm pissed because now with Bonds gone, the Giants can focus on putting a team out there that can actually win games. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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09-22-2007, 11:10 AM	#8
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	What's the Dodgers' excuse? (runs, ducks, and hides)
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09-22-2007, 11:32 AM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I am not a baseball fan, GD - you know that. All I know is that you are a huge Dodger fan, and I saw on the news last night that the Dodgers have lost 6 in a row, basically taking themselves out of contention in the NL West. So I thought I'd poke a bit.
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