When "oops" just doesn't cut it.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-04-2005, 03:09 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7089948/

Whoa boy, someone's going to get it BIG for this one. Major foul up here. And that poor, poor journalist! With all the hell she's already had to endure, now this?

lizziebith · 03-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Man...we've got some serious 'splainin' to do...

Prudence · 03-04-2005, 05:41 PM

Oh geeze. What's worse than being kidnapped by terrorists? Being shot at by the "good guys" during your escape.

BarTopDancer · 03-04-2005, 05:53 PM

Sigh. I have a feeling this will try and be pinned on the driver. They say he was going too fast and failed to slow for the checkpoint. My friend [who is over there] said "her driver was stupid".

The guy who died died protecting the freed hostage. He threw himself over her.

Sigh.

Gemini Cricket · 03-04-2005, 06:53 PM

Wow, that's really terrible. Poor lady.

Kevy Baby · 03-05-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lizziebith

Man...we've got some serious 'splainin' to do...

The only one with something to explain is the driver of the car!

Jazzman · 03-06-2005, 01:58 AM

Yes, yes, someone should get it big for this one. I mean, after all, what kind of an incompetent droob would fire on an unidentified, rapidly incoming vehicle that is barreling toward your checkpoint while ignoring warnings, flashing lights and warning shots, all in a country where a great many of your comrade's deaths have been the result of... car bombings! The obviously trigger-happy Yankee gunslingers should all be slapped in the face and court martialled for not standing idly by, eating cupcakes, and allowing the suspicious vehicle to ram them, as any well trained, non-evil, non-American soldier would do; am I not right? The thought of these war mongers raising their murderous weapons in acts of... ahem, "self defense," must be stopped immediately.

I do apologize for the snarkiness, but this irritates the hell out of me. The immediate and grossly reactionary urge to blindly point fingers at the U.S. servicemen who had no info on the car and tried everything they could do before finally resorting to desperate self-preservation measures is ludicrous. I can imagine the Propaganda Gnomes’ little palms getting all sweaty in anticipation of twisting this into even more "Bush is evil and this is why!" rhetoric. As Cartman says, "Lame...."

wendybeth · 03-06-2005, 11:08 AM

The driver of the car and the journalist are disputing the soldier's accounts, but I am very sceptical of their versions of what happened. Why would the soldiers shoot at them? I think they were caught up in the moment in trying to escape and didn't realise how they might appear to the soldiers at the checkpoint. Why on earth weren't the Americans apprised of what was happening- that this rescue operation was underway? I am very glad for her sake that she was rescued, but she was foolish to be there in the first place.

Name · 03-06-2005, 07:08 PM

Story on hostages account of incident

From article:

Without backing up the claim, Sgrena said she believed it was possible she was targeted because the United States objected to methods used to secure her release.

"The fact that the Americans don't want negotiations to free the hostages is known," the 56-year-old journalist told Sky TG24 television by telephone, her voice hoarse and shaky. "The fact that they do everything to prevent the adoption of this practice to save the lives of people held hostage, everybody knows that. So I don't see why I should rule out that I could have been the target."

Please lady, whatever.

alphabassettgrrl · 03-06-2005, 08:00 PM

And here I thought we didn't want to negotiate because that'd only encourage them... No, of course it stands to reason that we'd like more innocents to die. Sure.

Whatever. I mean, our fair journalist is entitled to her own opinion, but I do think she's more than a little "off" in her assessment. Yes, the soldiers would fire on a speeding car coming to the checkpoint, and yes, the driver probably didn't think how that would be interpreted. It really is a mess-up that really isn't anybody in particular's fault. Bad situation all 'round.

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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	Sigh. I have a feeling this will try and be pinned on the driver. They say he was going too fast and failed to slow for the checkpoint. My friend [who is over there] said "her driver was stupid". The guy who died died protecting the freed hostage. He threw himself over her. Sigh. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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Jazzman Sax God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland's Tijuana Posts: 510	Yes, yes, someone should get it big for this one. I mean, after all, what kind of an incompetent droob would fire on an unidentified, rapidly incoming vehicle that is barreling toward your checkpoint while ignoring warnings, flashing lights and warning shots, all in a country where a great many of your comrade's deaths have been the result of... car bombings! The obviously trigger-happy Yankee gunslingers should all be slapped in the face and court martialled for not standing idly by, eating cupcakes, and allowing the suspicious vehicle to ram them, as any well trained, non-evil, non-American soldier would do; am I not right? The thought of these war mongers raising their murderous weapons in acts of... ahem, "self defense," must be stopped immediately. I do apologize for the snarkiness, but this irritates the hell out of me. The immediate and grossly reactionary urge to blindly point fingers at the U.S. servicemen who had no info on the car and tried everything they could do before finally resorting to desperate self-preservation measures is ludicrous. I can imagine the Propaganda Gnomes’ little palms getting all sweaty in anticipation of twisting this into even more "Bush is evil and this is why!" rhetoric. As Cartman says, "Lame...."
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	The driver of the car and the journalist are disputing the soldier's accounts, but I am very sceptical of their versions of what happened. Why would the soldiers shoot at them? I think they were caught up in the moment in trying to escape and didn't realise how they might appear to the soldiers at the checkpoint. Why on earth weren't the Americans apprised of what was happening- that this rescue operation was underway? I am very glad for her sake that she was rescued, but she was foolish to be there in the first place. __________________
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Name Title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: here Posts: 779	Story on hostages account of incident From article: Without backing up the claim, Sgrena said she believed it was possible she was targeted because the United States objected to methods used to secure her release. "The fact that the Americans don't want negotiations to free the hostages is known," the 56-year-old journalist told Sky TG24 television by telephone, her voice hoarse and shaky. "The fact that they do everything to prevent the adoption of this practice to save the lives of people held hostage, everybody knows that. So I don't see why I should rule out that I could have been the target." Please lady, whatever. __________________ Signature
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alphabassettgrrl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,978	And here I thought we didn't want to negotiate because that'd only encourage them... No, of course it stands to reason that we'd like more innocents to die. Sure. Whatever. I mean, our fair journalist is entitled to her own opinion, but I do think she's more than a little "off" in her assessment. Yes, the soldiers would fire on a speeding car coming to the checkpoint, and yes, the driver probably didn't think how that would be interpreted. It really is a mess-up that really isn't anybody in particular's fault. Bad situation all 'round.
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