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"ZER-bee-ak"
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A Budgetary "What Should I Do" Question
Once a year I participate in a live-action D&D-like game. (It's not a LARP though.) Part of the fun involves the use and collection of tokens which can aid a player within the game. Most tokens represent items your character wears and/or uses like armor & weapons. Tokens come in four rarities: common, uncommon, rare, and ultra-rare. The rarer the token, the greater its relative power/usefulness. The full set of tokens changes every year and are never sold again (though there are after-market opportunities, such as eBay.) Tokens come in packs of 10 and cost a dollar per pack. Each pack has 7 common, 2 uncommon, and 1 rare. However, 1% of the token packs contain one ultra-rare in place of a common. Some ultra-rare tokens form sets. If all the items in a set are used an additional bonus is granted.
I have a budget of $100 to spend on tokens. The company that runs the game/sells the tokens has a special deal. If you buy 25 packs, you get an extra 5 packs free and your choice of an ultra-rare. (You might get an additional UR by random chance in the packs.) If you buy 100 packs, you get 20 free packs, four URs of your choice, and a special ultra-rare (one might call it an ultra-ultra-rare) that is only available via this offer. This UUR is part of a seven-year set that, when complete four years from now, will be über-powerful. I have the first two parts of this set. (FYI, it's called The Rod of Seven Parts, a famous D&D artifact.) Each year there are 20 different URs. This year there are three which are part of three different sets that I "need" to complete. (I have all the other parts of the sets.) There are three other URs that are way freakin' cool that I also covet, not to mention segment three of the Ro7P. After this year's tokens are shipped in April (we're in the pre-order phase right now), tokens will start showing up on eBay. Current-year URs generally sell for $10-$20 (since for $25 you can pick what you want and get a bunch of less commons to boot.) Previous year's UR prices are a lot more volatile and often go for more money, depending on usefulness. Ro7P segments have also been seen on eBay and while they too range in price, tend to be spendy. So here's my dilemma. Do I:
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This sounds like a really complicated word problem.
![]() Do you use the tokens after the weekend or do they just sit in a box? And how much more would you spend buying the remainder off ebay. That's how I would make the decision for myself. |
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Is this a real world situation or a problem presented just to see a mathematical solution?
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Option 1: $50 + $50 to $150 (over budget unless you get lucky on all auctions) Option 2: $75 + $30 to $60 (over budget unless you get the auctions at less than your estimated minimum. So if you're estimates are solid and your budget firm those don't seem options likely to lead to happiness. Since you can't recover from failing to obtain the three R07Ps and you're also in progress on the UUR and you don't indicate any way of getting that other than qualifying to buy it I would say the best option is to just buy the 100 packs. You're guaranteed continuing your R07P sets. You're guaranteed continuing your UUR set. You have a fair chance of getting another UR (though while "probably" is correct it is only a 63.4% chance of getting one randomly when purchasing 100). The other options either do not guarantee much and have the potential to be wasted saving if eBay costs are higher than projected. |
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By the way, if you want a sense of your odds of getting extra random URs by buying packets. Assuming they are truly randomly added to packets (since your purchase will almost certainly be consecutive packets)
For 100 packets: 36.6% chance you get no random URs. 37% chance you get one. 18.5% chance you get two. 6.1% chance you get three. 1.5% chance you get four. Less than 1% chance you get more than four. So add to option one the fact that you also have a 25% chance that you'll get enough extra random URs that you can try to trade for the two other ones you want (though aren't so critical) but didn't get through your purchase. |
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Alex
You have WAY too much free time on your hands.
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Probably. But in this case it was about 2 minutes to look up the Poisson Distribution equation again, 3 minutes to do the math and then thought through the rest of the logic while I wrote it.
All on a conference call (which is when I type most of my long posts). Maybe it isn't so much too much time as too much multitasking. |
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Which proves that Alex is smarter than an iPad.
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Must...resist...iPhone vs. Pre bait....
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Do those numbers change significantly if instead of 100 packs it's 120? Cause that's how many I'll be getting since I get 20 additional free. It's not going to change my decision (I'll get the 100+20 pack offer), I'm just curious.
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