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Old 09-02-2010, 11:11 AM   #1
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Extra, extra! Sarah Palin is exactly what you thought she was!

If there's ever a reason to read a long-form article, this is it.

Vanity Fair reporter spends time in Wasilla and on the road with Palin.

Seems to me, as soon as her presidential run starts in earnest and she has to do interviews again, she's finished.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:33 AM   #2
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One would hope that was true, but Bush Jr. (I call him junior) was elected TWICE (sorta) and he had to be one of the stupidest people alive. We who are fortunate to live in more progressive areas forget most of the country is filled with people who believe if one doesn't eat the flesh of the Christ-zombie and follow other variable rules, they will be consigned to the eternal hell created in the wisdom of an omnipotent (and loving) being. In the 80's
after Regan was elected to office I truly understood why human history is one despot and horrific event after another.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:28 PM   #3
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One would hope that was true, but Bush Jr. (I call him junior) was elected TWICE (sorta) and he had to be one of the stupidest people alive. We who are fortunate to live in more progressive areas forget most of the country is filled with people who believe if one doesn't eat the flesh of the Christ-zombie and follow other variable rules, they will be consigned to the eternal hell created in the wisdom of an omnipotent (and loving) being. In the 80's
after Regan was elected to office I truly understood why human history is one despot and horrific event after another.
we are DEVO!

Wow....gotta love Reagan is evil rhetoric coupled with anti-religious rhetoric.

I, personally, am happy that I live in a so-called less-progressive area of the country, particularly if being more fortunate like you means I have to look down on others who think differently than I do.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:55 PM   #4
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Wow....gotta love Reagan is evil rhetoric coupled with anti-religious rhetoric.
I'm not anti-religion, but I'm anti-anyone-who-thinks-the-solution-to-this-country's-woes-lie-in-a-more-religious-government.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:29 PM   #5
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I do not believe my opinion of Regan was in my post (boils down to "you are kidding right?")
Well, this may be a matter of interpretation, but I too thought that you were pretty clear on how you felt about Reagan:

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after Regan was elected to office I truly understood why human history is one despot and horrific event after another.
This to me says that:
  1. You think Reagan was a despot - I hate pulling out a dictionary definition of a word, but I will admit that I looked up 'despot' to make sure I was understanding the word correctly. Do you believe that Reagan ruled with "absolute power and authority" and that he "exercise[d] power tyrannically?" Personally, I don't. And to me, usage of a term like "despot" certainly has a far less than flattering connotation.
  2. You think that the election/term of office of Reagan was a "horrific event" - If you believe this to be true, I have to say that I vehemently disagree with you. I will afford differing viewpoints and do not discredit others for what they believe, but have to passionately disagree with this type of assessment of Reagan's term as President. I think he did a lot of great things for not only this country, but for the world at large. There were mistakes during his term, but there is with just about any modern President (and probably for all presidents). I like to remind supporters of Bill Clinton that the man was impeached for lying under oath while President. None-the-less, while I disagree with many of his policies, I thought he was a pretty effective leader. Sure, I could start ripping apart things that he did in office, but overall, I thought he did a decent job.
If you were not calling Reagan a "despot" and saying that his term was a "horrific event," then I apologize. But that is how your post read to me, and I think that is what scaeagles was commenting on as well.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:38 AM   #6
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Call me crazy but I think Bush's campaign rhetoric was on a totally different plane than Palin's was.

I even think it's against the odds that Palin will win her party's nomination...but maybe I'm being TOO optimistic.
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If I was writing some screenplay or something about all this, I'd say that all this focus on Palin is a calculated ploy (by who? I don't know) to keep Obama in office for a second term. Give her a lot of rope just in time for her to hang herself in 2012.*

*And I don't mean that literally.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #8
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While I don't think Bush II was one of the stupidest people alive, he was one of the stupidest (and worst) presidents this country ever had.

I think Reagan was idealistic, out of touch, and just plain wrong policy-wise; but I do not consider him evil.

And if you think that being progressive means you look down on others, you are sadly mistaken and misinformed.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:57 PM   #9
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I admired Palin (note use of past tense) especially since she was one of the very few Republicans that advocated for people with disabilities. That's all changed because her endorsements have proven her to be a fraud.

There is no way that Palin would win the Republican Nomination, even if she ran. Even 61% of the citizens of Alaska polled on the subject don't want her to run at all.
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I admired Palin (note use of past tense) especially since she was one of the very few Republicans that advocated for people with disabilities. That's all changed because her endorsements have proven her to be a fraud.

There is no way that Palin would win the Republican Nomination, even if she ran. Even 61% of the citizens of Alaska polled on the subject don't want her to run at all.
That's the impression I've been under for some time - certainly most conservatives in my social or family circle have said that they wouldn't want Palin to run (much less a Palin/Beck ticket).
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