Tomorrowland: 2015

[Isaac]

So my friends working in Walt Disney Travel, my brother in the hotels, my text messages with imagineer Steve Davison, and my chat with George K. (DL Pres.) all imply that Tomorrowland will finally be updated in 2015. The Peoplemover (in a new form) will return and the 'rocket jets' will be restored to their former location. What is in the air is the future of Innoventions and Autopia. Innoventions makes money from it's sponsorships (even if no one visits) and reducing Autopia could mean using the former Motorboat Cruise area (w/ the former Fantasyland Autopia) to make room for a new ride.

Thoughts ?

[Alex]

If right, then bummer on Peoplemover, wash on jets (though mild bummer as it is another instance of moving backwards instead of risking failure forward), cool on new ride.

[Kevy Baby]

Well, this both kind of jives with and contradicts Al's update last week.

[RStar]

While I'd love to see some sort of people mover put back in, I'm not sure how feasable it is. I heard that the Rocket Rods did so much damage to the track that it might not be repairable. But having the old empty track is sad, but at least it's a little shade. I just hope they get rid of the walkway clogging rockwork!!

Did hourly capacity increase when they moved the rocket jets to the ground? That would be my concern with putting it back on the platform, unless they did something to the load area that was quicker than the elevator.

It would be sad to see the subs go again, but the amaount of real estate that could be gained by raizing half of autopia, the lagoon and it's show building, and innovetions is huge, and could hold 3 great new E Ticket attractions! Couple that with a new makeover for the land and the future could be as bright for DL as it is for DCA today!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by RStar

Did hourly capacity increase when they moved the rocket jets to the ground? That would be my concern with putting it back on the platform, unless they did something to the load area that was quicker than the elevator.

The elevator, while cumbersome, was never a capacity bottleneck. There was always a line on top of the platform, after you got off the elevator. So even if the elevator were lightning fast it wouldn't have increased ride capacity.

[Moonliner]

In my mind, putting the rockets back up where they belong is right at the top of my wish list, even above making the Tea Cups spin correctly once again.

I never really had much love for Innovations, People mover, or the subs so by all means bring on the dozers and build me something shiny and new in their place, but I would be crushed if they removed Autopia. Letting kids drive their own cars is just to cool of a thing for the little ones.

Autopia does need a major overhaul however. Does Legoland still have their version? It was a mini-city and your cars were free to go wherever you wanted not just follow a pre-set track. That was cool.

I think Disney should talk with Google and get a custom mini-version of their self-driving cars that would allow kids the freedom to drive freely around a miniature city while using the Google auto-navigation smarts to prevent accidents. That would be a ride for the next generation.

[Isaac]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Well, this both kind of jives with and contradicts Al's update last week.

Just read Al's update.
Sounds like Autopia and Subs might be on the chopping block. Kinda makes sense since they could possibly save on pollution credits by removing those 2, while freeing up space for new rides.

I guess Tomorrowland 2015 seems to be the next big project.

If I find more info, I'll let you know.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by Isaac

Just read Al's update.
Sounds like Autopia and Subs might be on the chopping block. Kinda makes sense since they could possibly save on pollution credits by removing those 2, while freeing up space for new rides.

The subs are already green, they use the same magnetic induction powering system as the Red Car Trolleys. (Unfortunately, my internet search revealed little of the specifics, but the phrase "magnetic induction coil" kept popping up)

Count me as one who would be sad to see the Subs and the Carousel Building go. I'd love to see Innoventions leave, but I want a show in that building. Tomorrowland has lost its way, and not, as Imagineers love to lay the blame, because it's hard to keep up with the future, but because every shred of science and education has been removed. Whether it was shrinking to the smallness of an atom (and thereby learning that atoms are the building blocks of everything we see and touch), or flying to the moon (and learning about reduced gravity and the vacuum of space) (oh, and comets - COMETS!!!), Tomorrowland was the Great Hall of Science from the county fair, but on steroids. Now, it's "Spaceland," and suffers in comparison to its far more noble younger self. Give me back my Tomorrowland of Science, and "Optimistic Futurism". Don't get me wrong, I love Space Mountain and Star Tours (though Star Tours takes place A Long Time Ago, etc.), but would it kill the Imagineers to put some educational signage in the Nemo queue, telling us about the fish and the underwater geography we'll be seeing? Now that Chevron is out of the picture, how about ditching the gas engines and the speedway theming of Autopia, and putting some fun History of Transportation video on those ugly diamond-vision screens? You remember how to do it - how we got to here from there, and where we're going now? There is so much that could be done with the existing Tomorrowland, it's lazy to just give up and rip out some really valuable experiences because Imagineering has given up on trying to tell the story of a better tomorrow. I want a Better Tomorrow. Don't you?

[keith - SuPeR K!]

So excited! New shiny!!!

[€uroMeinke]

Yeah, as much as I hate the autopia as an adult, it was one of the best rides as a kid. Too bad the couldn't figure out a way to port it across the Esplanade. Now there's a California themed attraction.