War is peace

Ghoulish Delight · 09-20-2005, 03:25 PM

Students for an Orwellian Society

Okay, so maybe likening the actions and words of our government to the Orwellian nightmare of 1984 is a bit extreme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W. Bush

I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.

Then again, maybe not...

Isaac · 09-20-2005, 03:38 PM

I dunno.

Doesn't it say "Rest In Peace" on those tombstones ?

Morrigoon · 09-20-2005, 03:46 PM

So in order to have peace we must all be dead? Wow, that's a bit... "Revelations"-ey for my taste, lol.

OTOH... it *would* work

SwankBeer · 09-20-2005, 03:50 PM

Perhaps he meant "piece"

PanTheMan · 09-20-2005, 04:21 PM

"Fighting for Peace is like f*cking for Virginity."

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-20-2005, 08:01 PM

There are some fun links on that page. And by fun I mean alternately hilarious and horrifying.

On the fun side, check out this guy. Would you have the balls to attempt to fly wearing this?

Quote:

After the whole interaction was over, I offered to tell her, just for her own information, what the button means and why I wear it. She was curious. I told her that it refers to all of us, everyone, being suspected of being terrorists, being searched without cause, being queued in lines and pens, forced to take our shoes off, to identify ourselves, to be x-rayed and chemically sniffed, to drink our own breast milk, to submit to indignities. Everyone is a suspected terrorist in today's America, including all the innocent people, and that's wrong. That's what it means. The terrorists have won if we turn our country into an authoritarian theocracy "to defeat terrorism". I suggested that British Airways had demonstrated that trend brilliantly today. She understood but wasn't sympathetic -- like most of the people whose individual actions are turning the country into a police state.

Rock ON!

scaeagles · 09-20-2005, 09:36 PM

I remember Reagan being told he was a war monger and wanted nuclear destruction because he would dare to put Pershing II missiles in Europe or walk out on Gorby because he wouldn't give in on SDI. Peace through strength is not a new concept.

wendybeth · 09-20-2005, 09:54 PM

Eisenhower himself said to beware the military industrial complex- he knew where the hell that road led to.

Seldom a day goes by when I am not reminded how prescient Orwell was.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-21-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Peace through strength is not a new concept.

Peace through strength, yes. But peace due to enduring war isn't peace at all. And peace kept through a police state is a distorted type of peace.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-21-2005, 10:10 AM

And doesn't it unnerve you in the least, Leo, to see Grade-A double speak coming from your leader? Nevermind that that one quote is but an iota of the material that site has.

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	So in order to have peace we must all be dead? Wow, that's a bit... "Revelations"-ey for my taste, lol. OTOH... it would work __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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PanTheMan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere between you, and just over there. Posts: 258	"Fighting for Peace is like fcking for Virginity." __________________ What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?* ....
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I remember Reagan being told he was a war monger and wanted nuclear destruction because he would dare to put Pershing II missiles in Europe or walk out on Gorby because he wouldn't give in on SDI. Peace through strength is not a new concept.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Eisenhower himself said to beware the military industrial complex- he knew where the hell that road led to. Seldom a day goes by when I am not reminded how prescient Orwell was. __________________
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	And doesn't it unnerve you in the least, Leo, to see Grade-A double speak coming from your leader? Nevermind that that one quote is but an iota of the material that site has. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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