Is it bad that I agree with this?

[Capt Jack]

Skinny Models Banned from Fashion Show

ok, maybe not the banning part, but that the fashion industry is partly (hugely?) to blame for the, as they put it "heroin chic" unhealthy, overly thin look that alot of youngsters are unwisely striving for.

I dont really see a problem with them trying to keep their future models from dying before they ever reach the runway.

You've got to start somewhere I suppose.

thoughts?

[CoasterMatt]

I think it rocks.

[katiesue]

I agree too. Also why not desgin clothes that normal sized persons can actually fit in?

[Alex]

Because designing the clothes they have designed made them rich?

[€uroMeinke]

I thought "Heroin Chic" was already passé. I understand where they are coming from, but I'm not sure this will really do much - banning models below a certain BMI number. Seems as discriminatory as banning someone above a certain BMI number and I doubt anyone would agree to that.

Models almost by definition represent an ideal, but there are so many other places those ideals are represented. Should films be banned based on the size of the actors? How about athletes, teachers, or other role models?

Fashions reflect the times, I'm not so sure they create them.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Seems as discriminatory as banning someone above a certain BMI number and I doubt anyone would agree to that.

I don't know. Numbers can get awfully big.

But seriously, model image is just one component of how fashion victimizes women or just plain makes them look stupid.

A few years back, young women were walking around the workplace on three and four inch flip flops that made stiletto heels look sensible.

And Brazilian bikini waxes. Who was the first joker who, about to have sex, recoiled, stroked his chin thoughtfully and said, "No, no, I cannot f*** this p****. It has not suffered enough." And why did women believe him?

Don't get me started on tattooes.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

And Brazilian bikini waxes. Who was the first joker who, about to have sex, recoiled, stroked his chin thoughtfully and said, "No, no, I cannot f*** this p****. It has not suffered enough." And why did women believe him?

What about if a woman (or man) chooses to go after this look. Some people (myself included) PREFER it. My wife prefers it (on herself) but doesn't like the procedure,so she bought a machine to do it much less painfully. I would "trim" if she preferred, but she doesn't. If you don't like the look, then fine. But why should it be bad for everyone?

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Don't get me started on tattooes.

What is wrong with a tatoo if the person wants it? It is a personal choice.

Or maybe I am blowing this out of proportion. If so, I REALLY need to stop posting from work.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

It is a personal choice.

It's also a "personal choice" for a teenager to smoke or do drugs because her friends do them. Everyone in these fora question the outside forces that dictate and influence their so-called personal choices.

Now, maybe I'm just a crotchety old feminist, but I think that when society/fashion/etc. decides that all of a sudden women have to jump through new hoops, spend additional hours out of their week and money out of their pocket to do something new in order to be desirable to men, there's something wrong. Particularly when the something that is decided is something ludicrous: the aforementioned four-inch flip-flops, lowriders that have young women looking like my plumber and constantly hiking their pants up because they're really a little embarrassed by having their ass hang out, etc.

As for the waxing, I remember when all the pageant pictures of Jon-Benet came out and people were upset about how a six-year old was dolled up to look like a sexy adult. I'm not sure it's much healthier to say that grown women now have to look like six year-olds.

Did I mention thongs? Again, who was the joker who first said, "No, I won't f*** you unless you jam your underwear up your ass." Here I know whereof I speak: I've done the dance belt thing in dance classes and Shakespeare plays. Ick! Please don't say it's about panty lines; you can always tell when someone's wearing a thong. It's about women now having to say to men in order to be sexy, "Look, I'm thinking about my ass. My ass is now one layer of fabric closer to you." Women did not have to do this when I was younger; somehow they still managed to find men who would sleep with them.

Regarding tattooes, yes, it's a matter of personal taste. (Except when women are all getting lower back tattooes because everyone's doing it.) I like the human body. Every inch of it. My heart never fails to sink when I see a tattoo on a pretty woman or girl.

[wendybeth]

Haute coutere has discriminated against average and plus size men and women for years- where's the outcry there? When is the last time you saw a size 12 or higher on the catwalk, or gracing the pages of Vogue? What about older models? If event organizers feel that things have just gotten too extreme, it's their perogative to put restrictions- either way- on the models.

As for naturally gazelle-like models, they are few and far between. Most eventually admit to serious eating disorders, but not until they have aged out of the biz or quit because they wanted to develop a personal relationship with an In&Out burger.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Seems as discriminatory as banning someone above a certain BMI number and I doubt anyone would agree to that.

As much as I appreciate the appreciation of normal-looking people (you all know that's my MO) this was exactly the point I was going to make before you beat me to the punch!