Help: How to Flash Without Flashing?

Disneyphile · 02-05-2008, 11:34 PM

No, not my boobs, even though it's Mardi Gras. (And, I certainly don't need help doing that.)

I'm working on my website (the current one is just a placeholder). I'd like some fancy dynamics, but I'm not familiar with how to make Flash-type sites.

I only own Frontpage, and have no money for other programs, but would love something that imitates a Flash site, that can have a bit of motion, and then also load my sample videos into an on-screen player from the same page.

Is it even possible, or am I just hoping for a miracle that just can't happen?

Here's a site that pretty much shows the kind of thing I'd love to do: Link

Thanks for any tips, tricks, suggestions!

figment1986 · 02-05-2008, 11:49 PM

seems like some php codes would work... I don't know any of them.. though i do use dream weaver for side projects..

Hopefully someone will have a good idea of what you could do to emulate the idea you want.

keith - SuPeR K! · 02-05-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by figment1986

seems like some php codes would work...

PHP won't help with animation or anything on the client side as it is server-side scripting. You would need to use client-side scripting... JavaScript.

figment1986 · 02-06-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keith - SuPeR K!

PHP won't help with animation or anything on the client side as it is server-side scripting. You would need to use client-side scripting... JavaScript.

woops... forgot, my friend does his sites in php while other use xhtml.

Should have remembered javascript...

embedding a video on a "flash" index is easily...

keith - SuPeR K! · 02-05-2008, 11:55 PM

If you aren't going to use Flash or any other similar proprietary system you would most likely be looking at something scripted with JavaScript. There are lots of frameworks out there that make simple animations possible, but you would need someone with some JS knowledge to put it all together for you. No program like FrontPage is going to offer that kind of stuff. If you want to PM me a more in-depth description of what you are trying to do I might be able to help.

Kevy Baby · 02-06-2008, 12:01 AM

Yeah, I'm just gonna leave this thread alone.

keith - SuPeR K! · 02-06-2008, 01:17 AM

As for a video playing on your page, that can be easily accomplished by encoding the video in FLV, MPG, or AVI and embedding a media player in your page. That is very simple code to place in your HTML page.

LSPoorEeyorick · 02-06-2008, 08:02 AM

Yeah, you can do the video-encoded-FLV on an html page, and that will give the sense of movement. Java will work, to a point, but really, I think your best bet is to hire a flash artist to do something really simple for you. The "Love Machine Films" site has flash embedded in the html, and that definitely would require a flash artist. (And my flash guys suggest nixing the html and just going with full-flash; flash-in-html can bug out pretty badly - the LMF site, while lovely, was a tiny bit buggy.) Let me know if you need any contacts or suggestions if you want to go this direction; up-and-comers and/or some of my flash pals are often willing to do things for lower prices or for trade.

keith - SuPeR K! · 02-07-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

(And my flash guys suggest nixing the html and just going with full-flash; flash-in-html can bug out pretty badly - the LMF site, while lovely, was a tiny bit buggy.)

Making an entire site in Flash is a horrible idea from a usability standpoint. Flash-in-HTML is the way to go if you do in fact decide to use Flash. The only reason a Flash-in-HTML site would be buggy is if it was coded improperly.

LSPoorEeyorick · 02-07-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keith - SuPeR K!

Making an entire site in Flash is a horrible idea from a usability standpoint.

Really? That's all our clients want anymore.

Whichever way you go, T, I'm sure it'll look great.

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figment1986 Join the Darkside Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Within 78 miles of WDW... Posts: 307	seems like some php codes would work... I don't know any of them.. though i do use dream weaver for side projects.. Hopefully someone will have a good idea of what you could do to emulate the idea you want.
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keith - SuPeR K! Community Fruit Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 547	If you aren't going to use Flash or any other similar proprietary system you would most likely be looking at something scripted with JavaScript. There are lots of frameworks out there that make simple animations possible, but you would need someone with some JS knowledge to put it all together for you. No program like FrontPage is going to offer that kind of stuff. If you want to PM me a more in-depth description of what you are trying to do I might be able to help.
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keith - SuPeR K! Community Fruit Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 547	As for a video playing on your page, that can be easily accomplished by encoding the video in FLV, MPG, or AVI and embedding a media player in your page. That is very simple code to place in your HTML page.
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LSPoorEeyorick scribblin' Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the moment Posts: 3,872	Yeah, you can do the video-encoded-FLV on an html page, and that will give the sense of movement. Java will work, to a point, but really, I think your best bet is to hire a flash artist to do something really simple for you. The "Love Machine Films" site has flash embedded in the html, and that definitely would require a flash artist. (And my flash guys suggest nixing the html and just going with full-flash; flash-in-html can bug out pretty badly - the LMF site, while lovely, was a tiny bit buggy.) Let me know if you need any contacts or suggestions if you want to go this direction; up-and-comers and/or some of my flash pals are often willing to do things for lower prices or for trade. Last edited by LSPoorEeyorick : 02-06-2008 at 08:17 AM.
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